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wikedgolf
03-23-2006, 12:09 PM
Honda Civic Si vs. Mini Cooper S vs. Volkswagen GTI
Battle of the Badge: Three revitalized nameplates compete for newfound glory.

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Back in the day, the GTI and Si badges were must-haves in the world of fast rides and cheap eats. From the early Rabbit and Golf-based GTIs to the popular CRX and Civic Si's of the mid-'80s and early '90s, these two nameplates were synonymous with a romping good time in a quick and affordable package. Turn the clock back another two decades, and it was the original Austin Mini Cooper S that flew the feisty, front-drive flag, paving the way for a generation of hopped-up hatchbacks to follow.

Fast-forward to the present and the new Mini continues to keep the original Cooper S flame alive with its playful blend of personality, performance and style. Recent GTI's and Civic Si's, on the other hand, seem to have lost their way, getting softer, blander and less involving with each new model. So while the Cooper S has enjoyed almost universal praise from enthusiasts the world over, the last-generation GTI and Si left many flat, wondering why they weren't edgier and more interesting to drive.

Volkswagen and Honda clearly saw the error of their ways, as the all-new iterations represent a massive improvement over the cars they replace. Any luster lost from these icons has been faithfully restored with the 2006 models, the next-generation GTI and Civic Si reflecting the spirit of their forerunners with genuinely stirring performance and engaging, try-anything attitudes.

With that in mind, it's only fitting that we grab these two fresh faces, throw in a John Cooper Works-equipped Mini Cooper S and stage ourselves a front-drive showdown. While distinctly different in character, this trio is actually quite similar on paper — all are built on a sport-tuned, 2-door chassis, are powered by a 4-cylinder engine putting put out roughly 200 bhp and start at around $22,000. Better still, one's normally aspirated, one's supercharged and one's turbocharged. Let's see how they shake out.

Click here to read more (http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=3370)

mike
03-23-2006, 12:29 PM
a john cooper works S is a pretty price option on an already expensive S.................we have one on our lot with a $50K window sticker...................thats not a type-o, $50,000 for a cooper s with 200HP, suspension, brake kit (albeit a very little one) and some cheezy wheels..........I will snap a picture latter

wikedgolf
03-23-2006, 12:33 PM
a john cooper works S is a pretty price option on an already expensive S.................we have one on our lot with a $50K window sticker...................thats not a type-o, $50,000 for a cooper s with 200HP, suspension, brake kit (albeit a very little one) and some cheezy wheels..........I will snap a picture latter


I totaly belive you..!! when i was reseaching MINIs , I was like GOOD GOWD! when i saw the markup on a JCW

chris
03-23-2006, 12:42 PM
Nice comparison. That new GTI is very nice..wish I had an extra $20k laying around for a daily driver :p

mike
03-23-2006, 01:26 PM
you will pay from straying from the VW gods Mel...........dearly.............nice to know I will see you on a regular basis for broken stuff and check engine lights

wikedgolf
03-23-2006, 01:37 PM
you will pay from straying from the VW gods Mel...........dearly.............nice to know I will see you on a regular basis for broken stuff and check engine lights


LOL.. NO.. i still have the VW :) and it will always be my NUMBER 1 car!

i just need a new motor.. new stering culoum , ne suspention, oo and paint.. cant forget that.. lol

madajb
03-23-2006, 01:56 PM
So who won?
-ajb

creanium
03-23-2006, 02:55 PM
So who won?
-ajb
1. GTI
2. Civic SI
3. Mini

AcCeL
03-24-2006, 07:53 PM
But of course, GTI has won every magazine comparison so far.

PhätTony
03-24-2006, 08:09 PM
doubt that Si had any balls against the coopah...

1. GTI
2. Coopah
3. HoMo (Si)

volksrida
03-24-2006, 08:24 PM
take that rice burners