Ask not....

[paultakeda]

In every country where man is free to think and to speak, differences of opinion will arise from difference of perception, and the imperfection of reason; but these differences when permitted, as in this happy country, to purify themselves by free discussion, are but as passing clouds overspreading our land transiently and leaving our horizon more bright and serene.


Elections belong to the people. It is their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters.

The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others.


All extremes are bad. All that is good and useful, if carried to extremes, may become-and beyond a certain limit is bound to become-bad and injurious.


The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

Register to vote.

[Gryphun]

This is coming from a fourth year Political Science major at UCSD....your votes mean nothing..pass it on.

[Tom (aka Godzilla)]

This is coming from a fourth year Political Science major at UCSD....your votes mean nothing..pass it on.

4 years of college doesn't entitle you to tell me my vote doesn't count. Go get 4 years of real experience and get back to me.

The apathy that is continually shown by American voters is responsible for passing more and more power into the hands of the few. If more people got down to the polls and voted, then our votes would be worth more, becuase there would be more voices behind the votes. Get it?

[mitssn]

Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln
Elections belong to the people. It is their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters.

Damn I didn't Abe was on here?! Where you at nigga?

[Tom (aka Godzilla)]

Register to vote.

Don't just register, get off your a** and vote.

[Alan_One]

Don't just register, get off your a** and vote.

Then what Tom?

I vote. I voted last election. And then the guy I voted for won. And then he didn't win. But he Had won.

I'm all for exercising your vote. I know that the pres election isn't the only thing happening. I'll be there to vote, don't get me wrong, but I'm going to do it for my own conscience. So I can say "I tried to do the right thing". But more and more the vote is less a vote and more a measure of popular trends and moral alignments.

Pretty soon it'll be little more meaningful than a poll. I mean when you think about it, the percentage of people that actually go out and vote is so damn low that someone somewhere is gonna say "I think that for the good of this country, we should only take the voice of the public as an opinion since we here in Washington know more and better than them. And since they already let us take away so many of their rights with the patriot act they wont complain too much as long as we tell them it's for national security and we know better. I mean, since over 70% of the public doesn't vote, it means that they really don't care anyway. And I suppose you could take those people as voting no - like we don't feel the issue is important enough to merit our attention..."

It could happen.

So don't be so hard on the 4 year blah blah blah guy. He's developed his stance from 4 years of hard studious activities in a collegiate environment. He’s decided not to vote…. Apparently they didn’t succeed in instilling in him the spirit of participation. The MOST essential component of our government.

[madajb]

It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once.


Voting is one of the few things where boycotting in protest clearly makes the problem worse rather than better.


This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it


The government is merely a servant, merely a temporary servant; it cannot be it's prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn't. It's function is to obey orders, not originate them


-ajb

[ncttrnl]

This is coming from a fourth year Political Science major at UCSD....your votes mean nothing..pass it on.

This is coming from someone who already has a degree from UCSD... Vote.

I'm assuming you're saying this because of the electoral college in the Presidential elections. Your vote and my vote may mean very little on their own but ultimately it takes a bunch of votes like ours to determine who carries the state and who gets the electoral college votes. Think of voting as part of your civic responsibility to help the electoral college make the right decision.

If you don't think its necessary to vote, fine. Don't vote. You and the other non-voters just make all of our votes count that extra tiny bit more.

[ncttrnl]

Since everyone is posting these inspirational quotes... here's one for you Knight Rider fans.

One man can make a difference

[paultakeda]

This is coming from a fourth year Political Science major at UCSD....your votes mean nothing..pass it on.

You're a political science major that apparently didn't learn a damned thing.

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any.

Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote.

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.

[Gryphun]

If you don't think its necessary to vote, fine. Don't vote. You and the other non-voters just make all of our votes count that extra tiny bit more.

If you look at the american political development since the beginning of the U.S, the landed elites were the first to control the government, after the election of 1800 and the 12th amendment(i think) recognized political parties as organizations along with creating a two-party monopoly, then you have the party machines and the party bosses(even though everyone and their momma was voting, who was controlling them with wages and food, etc) the party bosses. After the great reforms and blah, blah, blah of the 1900s you still have a two party system were nothing really gets done( each party tries to cater to the voter therefore both parties begin to be moderates and begin to mirror each other and blah, blah, blah....do you think its coincidence that both kerry and bush are related to past historic families (bush related to past presidents and and kerry I forgot who)..Do you think subconsciously that we are still be ruled by landed elites?

4 years of college doesn't entitle you to tell me my vote doesn't count. Go get 4 years of real experience and get back to me.

and for this response...you dont know me and I dont know you and I wasnt telling your voted didnt count, I was making a statement and for the get real experience quote...I have already..Im 25...I was a recon marine for 5 years...I work as a financial planner...I live all by myself like a grownup in La Jolla..dont tell me to get 4 years of fucking real experience...do you understand?

[Gryphun]

You're a political science major that apparently didn't learn a damned thing.

and for you Paul...I have learned quite a bit actually. I just have a different sense of views than you and until you are a professor and I am your student I will wait to give your opinions a grain of salt

[allizard]

Can I say this is one of the most emotionally charged election ever?

[madajb]

..I work as a financial planner...I live all by myself like a grownup in La Jolla..dont tell me to get 4 years of fucking real experience...do you understand?
Here's hoping you know more about finances than you do about politics...
-ajb

[paultakeda]

and for you Paul...I have learned quite a bit actually. I just have a different sense of views than you and until you are a professor and I am your student I will wait to give your opinions a grain of salt

That's rather elitist as well as narrow-minded. Professors and their opinions are as worthy as anyone else's, it's the content and reason of those opinions which proves their value.

Considering I entered into a battle with my very own advisor while in graduate school for my candidacy, with the school siding with me and granting me candidacy against my now ex-advisor's wishes, I know of which I speak.

Academic elitism is annoying.

Your opinions are your own, but blithely stating that a population's vote does not count reduces my opinion of your poli-sci degree opinions to a disagreeable little pile of nothing.

[paultakeda]

Can I say this is one of the most emotionally charged election ever?

No, you can't, you sonofabitch!

;)

[Gryphun]

Here's hoping you know more about finances than you do about politics...

Yes I do and I am successful at it. Im only doing it until I graduate then I will be in charge of my Father's Real Estate company mortgage division up in San Francisco...I can't wait for that actually because these people that I help that have 2 million to 10 million are really stuck up..I 'm tired of dealing with people that are new money.


Your opinions are your own, but blithely stating that a population's vote does not count reduces my opinion of your poli-sci degree opinions to a disagreeable little pile of nothing.

I actually chuckled at this one

I call a truce for now...

[wikedgolf]

people have issues

[mitssn]

Hey Mel shut up before my dad beats up your dad!

[wikedgolf]

Hey Mel shut up before my dad beats up your dad!


i'll help your dad out.. lol...