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madajb
09-16-2004, 01:50 PM
Yes, I know it's a publicity thing, but it's still amusing.
Amendment (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/15/220242.shtml)
-ajb

A1pocketrocket
09-16-2004, 02:13 PM
Schwarzaane......ger '08!!

creanium
09-16-2004, 04:26 PM
We knew this was only a matter of time ... fundametally I don't see any real big problem with it, and I'm not just saying that because I might support Ahnuld. Times have changed and I think the dangers in electing a foreign-born president that's been a citizen for 20 years aren't as apparent as they were when the constitution was drafted.

mitssn
09-16-2004, 05:00 PM
We knew this was only a matter of time ... fundametally I don't see any real big problem with it, and I'm not just saying that because I might support Ahnuld. Times have changed and I think the dangers in electing a foreign-born president that's been a citizen for 20 years aren't as apparent as they were when the constitution was drafted.
Rules are rules though. Change it and think of the precedent you'd be setting.

paultakeda
09-16-2004, 05:37 PM
Rules are rules though. Change it and think of the precedent you'd be setting.

Yeah, like when we amended the constitution so women could vote. Look what happened with that ball of wax!

Troike
09-16-2004, 05:50 PM
Since we never seem to have any good Americans running for President, I'd definately support this amendment.

Tom (aka Godzilla)
09-16-2004, 06:50 PM
Does anyone remember Demolition Man? There was a line in there about Ahnold becoming President after a special amendment.

madajb
09-16-2004, 09:28 PM
Yeah, like when we amended the constitution so women could vote. Look what happened with that ball of wax!
Well..you could make an argument that the Republic entered a downhill spiral right about that time...
=)
-ajb

paultakeda
09-17-2004, 07:39 AM
True. Prohibition was an especially stupid constitutional amendment.

Alan_One
09-17-2004, 11:24 AM
Not into it.

I might be a little paranoid but wouldn't it be easy for outside interests to put someone in the whitehouse? I mean we have enough problems with inside interests.

As for the "any good americans" comment; what makes you think this ammendment would change that?

I don't like it at all.

Troike
09-17-2004, 01:03 PM
Not into it.

I might be a little paranoid but wouldn't it be easy for outside interests to put someone in the whitehouse? I mean we have enough problems with inside interests.

As for the "any good americans" comment; what makes you think this ammendment would change that?

I don't like it at all.

I don't think there's anything inherently worse with the 'outside interests' compared to our inside interests .. Same with candidates, might not get better ones, but might at least open things up to at least one decent person.

Imagine if a Kofi Annan or similar leader were to run this nation, instead of corrupt, self-serving, political bastards?

I can dream, can't I?

Alan_One
09-17-2004, 02:13 PM
I don't think there's anything inherently worse with the 'outside interests' compared to our inside interests .. Same with candidates, might not get better ones, but might at least open things up to at least one decent person.

Imagine if a Kofi Annan or similar leader were to run this nation, instead of corrupt, self-serving, political bastards?

I can dream, can't I?

Yeah, but a person is made by his experiences. I don't think Anaan would be the same person if he spent 20+ years in this country under this system. Plus, no one would vote for him.

I still don't like it. I think it's reckless. And the combination of outside and inside interests if most definitely worse than inside interests alone. What are you thinking?

Sometimes it feels like people like to add options just cause they can and not thinking long enough if they should.

paultakeda
09-17-2004, 02:55 PM
Personally, I don't believe in sub-classifications of citizenship. This means ANY citizen should have the option.

Of course, I can understand qualifiers such as 20 year residency, since citizenship requires active participation.

As for outside interests... well, Big Oil sort of renders that argument moot.

Satan4
09-17-2004, 03:12 PM
Any citizen should be able to run for president.

As an Entrepreneur, I enjoy my super high income so I can afford fun toys. Arnold agrees with me and favors the ones of us who try to make a decent living.

However, there is a candidate who has already voted 350 times in favor of raising taxes. I think I will choose him and loose some of my toys. NOT!

madajb
09-17-2004, 03:53 PM
but might at least open things up to at least one decent person.

Decent people don't go into politics, and if they do, they don't last long.
-ajb

madajb
09-17-2004, 04:03 PM
Speaking as a non-American, non-citizen, I think this is a bad idea.
Intellectually, this is a debatable idea, but on a gut level, it's wrong.
When push comes to shove, what will a naturalized citizen choose, America or his home country.
Would Arnie be willing to bomb Austria if it harbors terrorists? Would he push for tough new sanctions on the import of little clocks and chocolate(yes, I know that's Switzerland, what do they make in Austria anyway?).
Yes, I know there are just as many native-born folk willing to sell out the country for a dime, but why add more people to the mix?

As for a time limit, I've been here for 26 or so years, and if it came down to it, I'd choose the motherland.
-ajb

paultakeda
09-17-2004, 04:20 PM
However, there is a candidate who has already voted 350 times in favor of raising taxes. I think I will choose him and loose some of my toys. NOT!

"lose"

allizard
09-18-2004, 06:02 PM
I think we should amend the voting right to only allow a person completed high school degree. I want to raise it up to college but then it may not be fair to a lot of folks.

madajb
09-18-2004, 06:42 PM
I think we should amend the voting right to only allow a person completed high school degree. I want to raise it up to college but then it may not be fair to a lot of folks.
Riigghht...because only people that have graduated high school should have a say in their future...
I know..let's have literacy tests...or we could make people recite the preamble from memory..hell, I'm sure the Deep South states have all kinds of laws we could dust off..

-ajb

Alan_One
09-19-2004, 10:25 PM
"lose"

+r