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paultakeda
09-22-2004, 11:08 PM
Ads and stump speeches analyzed by factcheck.org.

Misinforming Voters From The Stump. Bush and Kerry both pepper their standard political speeches with misleading claims. (http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=260)

Kerry & Bush Duel Over Medicare Premiums - Who's To Blame For The 17% Increase? Bush falsely claims Kerry voted repeatedly to raise premiums. Kerry's spot blaming Bush alone for the latest increase isn't much better. (http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=257)
Troike
09-23-2004, 12:14 AM
I hate bush .. I really do. Not your typical whiney liberal "bush is an evil man because the media said so" type thing; I hate him because of his policies that have violated constitutional rights, from free speech to search + seizure to supposedly Republican standards such as State's rights, limited Government involvement, reduced spending, etc .. not to mention the whole global war thing.

But damn, I'm almost wondering if I should bother getting an absentee ballot ... I've never been able to vote in a Presidential election before, but starting off my voting career by marking Kerry would bring a tear to my eye.

Wake me up in 4 years, please.
madajb
09-23-2004, 02:57 AM
But damn, I'm almost wondering if I should bother getting an absentee ballot ... I've never been able to vote in a Presidential election before, but starting off my voting career by marking Kerry would bring a tear to my eye.

Wake me up in 4 years, please.
If you are in CA, you have other choices....
CERTIFIED LIST OF CANDIDATES
NOVEMBER 2, 2004 PRESIDENTIAL GENERAL ELECTION

PRESIDENT
(Presidential Elector)
JOHN F. KERRY FOR PRESIDENT Democratic
JOHN EDWARDS FOR VICE PRESIDENT

GEORGE W. BUSH FOR PRESIDENT Republican
RICHARD CHENEY FOR VICE PRESIDENT


MICHAEL ANTHONY PEROUTKA FOR PRESIDENT American Independent
CHUCK BALDWIN FOR VICE PRESIDENT


DAVID COBB FOR PRESIDENT Green
PAT LA MARCHE FOR VICE PRESIDENT

MICHAEL BADNARIK FOR PRESIDENT Libertarian
RICHARD CAMPAGNA FOR VICE PRESIDENT

LEONARD PELTIER FOR PRESIDENT Peace and Freedom
JANICE JORDAN FOR VICE PRESIDENT
A1pocketrocket
09-23-2004, 08:55 AM
MICHAEL BADNARIK FOR PRESIDENT Libertarian
RICHARD CAMPAGNA FOR VICE PRESIDENT

woooo...they would get my vote if they had a shot.
ncttrnl
09-23-2004, 09:22 AM
Wait wait wait... You mean politicians lie?

Thats it, I'm shocked!
madajb
09-23-2004, 10:52 AM
MICHAEL BADNARIK FOR PRESIDENT Libertarian
RICHARD CAMPAGNA FOR VICE PRESIDENT

woooo...they would get my vote if they had a shot.
Catch-22.
They don't have a shot if no one votes for them.
No one votes for them, because they don't have a shot.

-ajb
A1pocketrocket
09-23-2004, 01:25 PM
and the two party system lives on!
madajb
09-23-2004, 04:34 PM
and the two party system lives on!
Well, hey, you might as well vote for someone else, since your vote for Bush isn't going to matter much in CA. heh.
-ajb
allizard
09-23-2004, 04:43 PM
Well, hey, you might as well vote for someone else, since your vote for Bush isn't going to matter much in CA. heh.
-ajb

Yep... just heard the news today Calif is a Kerry Country. We are called the 'Left' Coast for a good reason.