View Full Version : Who's got December issue of Eurotuner??!
bugzy
10-12-2004, 10:56 PM
1.8t Challenge article?
anyone got it?
Mr. Nobody
10-12-2004, 11:56 PM
What about it??
Monster8V
10-13-2004, 12:05 AM
What about it??
1.8T challenge article is in it. Or so they say.
We get to see who did what.
1.8T challenge article is in it. Or so they say.
We get to see who did what.
It is out on the east coast and yes the 1.8t challenge article is it in since a customer showed it to the guys at Induktion Motorsports in Maryland. He said something about the article saying something about me taking top spot even though he drove his own car, must have been talking about the drag event. But we wont really find out till we read it.
PDVR6
10-14-2004, 04:40 PM
It is out on the east coast and yes the 1.8t challenge article is it in since a customer showed it to the guys at Induktion Motorsports in Maryland. He said something about the article saying something about me taking top spot even though he drove his own car, must have been talking about the drag event. But we wont really find out till we read it.
Saw it, read it, they are fools. They basically said you would have taken the top spot that you deserved but because you insisted, yes they said insisted on driving it yourself it cost you the top spot being 5 seconds behind the leader. We all know that Kris Valdez drove it and he is one that can drive. It has a lot more to do with the fact the car is set up to drag race, not road race.
bugzy
10-14-2004, 04:44 PM
you had the best 1/4 time including the tuners
Brakes, Tires, Handling, and power, edwin won with a very well rounded car. He had a well tuned suspension camber dialed in for the event with yoko R rubber, great brakes, reliable power, and a very streetable setup. He deserved to win.
Saw it, read it, they are fools. They basically said you would have taken the top spot that you deserved but because you insisted, yes they said insisted on driving it yourself it cost you the top spot being 5 seconds behind the leader. We all know that Kris Valdez drove it and he is one that can drive. It has a lot more to do with the fact the car is set up to drag race, not road race.
PDVR6
10-15-2004, 01:45 AM
I think the fact that some bolts fell off of the turbo added to the problem. Kris said after taking a lap around the track to get to know it better he began to actually drive it fast, half way through his fast lap he lost boost to about 2psi. Too top it off this was the first event in the challenge so they had to rush to a hardware store to get the proper partsso they could fix it just in time for the drag race. Maybe if he had a chance to actually make a good fast lap things would have been different.
The track was the first event of the second day, the first event was the dyno, followed by the road course, then 1/4.
I think the fact that some bolts fell off of the turbo added to the problem. Kris said after taking a lap around the track to get to know it better he began to actually drive it fast, half way through his fast lap he lost boost to about 2psi. Too top it off this was the first event in the challenge so they had to rush to a hardware store to get the proper partsso they could fix it just in time for the drag race. Maybe if he had a chance to actually make a good fast lap things would have been different.
PDVR6
10-15-2004, 01:59 PM
They should run the drag strip first, then move to the road course.
i think they figure less things will break on road course, but more issues come up with road course too.
It worked out for most people
They should run the drag strip first, then move to the road course.
PDVR6
10-15-2004, 02:07 PM
i think they figure less things will break on road course, but more issues come up with road course too.
It worked out for most people
You put more strain overall on a car while driving on the road course. More things have a chance to break.
Agreed, longevity issues on road course vs a moment of high stress on the launch.
You put more strain overall on a car while driving on the road course. More things have a chance to break.
Monster8V
10-15-2004, 05:12 PM
You put more strain overall on a car while driving on the road course. More things have a chance to break.
When your making alot of power, the drag race is much harder on the entire driveline. Plus it was hot, running mid daywould of sucked. The track was definately a HP track with only a couple tight corners on one end. It was like 2 drag strips with 180 turn arounds at the ends sort of track. Not too hard on equipment, unless your turbo bolts were stripping out......
Yeah....
We still ran a 15.8 with no boost!! LOL!! Dunno how I did on the RR portion with maybe 3lbs boost. Only made it 3 laps before it just wasnt making any kind of power. Pointless after that. 20in of vacume under load, not fun. :tdown:
Brakes, Tires, Handling, and power, edwin won with a very well rounded car. He had a well tuned suspension camber dialed in for the event with yoko R rubber, great brakes, reliable power, and a very streetable setup. He deserved to win.
That is a good one paul. Not exactly sure why you would say he "deserved" to win since he placed second in 3 of the 4 events and took first in the road racing because I was forced to have another driver run it and at the point of the turbo hanging off the car. He won by less then 6 points because of a issue for 1 of the 4 events. With both of are cars running at top form his car has no chance on any street or road course against my car.
Mike, his car deserved to win to me because it didn't break. His car ran all day, true he didn't place 1st in many events but I honestly doubt your car would keep up with his on the road course, you would definately have scored more points had your car not had its issues. As fo you being forced to let antoher driver run it? it's your car, chris didn't have to drive it. You could have just as easiily said gary drive the car.
Edwin's car has the suspension, camber, braking, and tires. More traction than your car, more braking than your car, your car would not have run a time faster than his car on the road course. You had azenis sports which have gone through plenty of heat cycles, edwins running yokohama advans, your stock brakes with high performance pads vs his stoptech bbk, your koni shocks/springs vs his coil overs + cpp links. put the two cars on a tight track and I'll pick edwin anyday of the week.
Mike, his car deserved to win to me because it didn't break. His car ran all day, true he didn't place 1st in many events but I honestly doubt your car would keep up with his on the road course, you would definately have scored more points had your car not had its issues. As fo you being forced to let antoher driver run it? it's your car, chris didn't have to drive it. You could have just as easiily said gary drive the car.
Edwin's car has the suspension, camber, braking, and tires. More traction than your car, more braking than your car, your car would not have run a time faster than his car on the road course. You had azenis sports which have gone through plenty of heat cycles, edwins running yokohama advans, your stock brakes with high performance pads vs his stoptech bbk, your koni shocks/springs vs his coil overs + cpp links. put the two cars on a tight track and I'll pick edwin anyday of the week.
He still has to move that much heavier car with just 250 whp and even less tq since it has a very small power band for the road course. But if you like just talk to ed and line up a race at one of the local track events and we will see what his car does vs my car running at 100% and I wont even put "race" tires just another set of sports.
Mike, my lowly 172whp car did a 1:24, 3 seconds shy of his 250whp, cambered sob. I can't compare Edwin as a driver against you, although he seems to participate in a lot of autox events. Edwin ran a 1:21 iirc. Look mike had your car not broken on the road course we all know you would have won. But that's just it, you have to have a reliable car to compete, which is true in any motorsport competition.
He still has to move that much heavier car with just 250 whp and even less tq since it has a very small power band for the road course. But if you like just talk to ed and line up a race at one of the local track events and we will see what his car does vs my car running at 100% and I wont even put "race" tires just another set of sports.
Mike, my lowly 172whp car did a 1:24, 3 seconds shy of his 250whp, cambered sob. I can't compare Edwin as a driver against you, although he seems to participate in a lot of autox events. Edwin ran a 1:21 iirc. Look mike had your car not broken on the road course we all know you would have won. But that's just it, you have to have a reliable car to compete, which is true in any motorsport competition.
The fastest time in my car was 1 second slower then yours, my car is lighter so how much power do you think my car was making at 2-5psi of boost with 1400+ deg air being sucked into the intake tube? Just a good guess would be about stock at the wheels vs my 385 whp at 20psi with clean air. Pretty sure that is going to be a huge difference in times on a 1.5 mile fast track like Fontana. Next years event will come up quick and I will be ready for that even if it is on the east coast which I hope it is.
PDVR6
10-16-2004, 11:38 PM
Off topic, did anyone actually drive their own car?
Bahn Brenner did. Shawn drove Joey's car. Don't think anyone else did off the top of my head... they wanted the pro driver to drive first, then the owners, but we ran out of time.
Monster8V
10-17-2004, 08:48 AM
Bahn Brenner did. Shawn drove Joey's car. Don't think anyone else did off the top of my head... they wanted the pro driver to drive first, then the owners, but we ran out of time.
We didnt let the "PRO" drive the Corrado since whe knew it was hurt. I know I could run a better lap time than the PRO could in the car.
I had to explain to him what Kuhmo's were and he was stumped as to what BFG R-1s were. He must be a high end PRO driver, only driven on the finest most expensive race tires!
Bahn Brenner did. Shawn drove Joey's car. Don't think anyone else did off the top of my head... they wanted the pro driver to drive first, then the owners, but we ran out of time.
Bahn Brenner also had Raffi from Eurosport take the car out for another 6 laps during their first session given them 12 laps total before all the cars had a chance to hit the track. Turns out that those were a wasted 6 laps since they had a issue with the timer as it says in the article.
We had to make a choice because of something that happened before our group was allowed to go out, so Kris from Dynamic Racing Solutions took the car out for our 6 laps which nearly took me out of the competion completely. Luckly we and a few people from other teams that helped were able to get the car back together and back over to the drags an hr after they started that event.
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