Contemplating a buy B5 S4 with 64K...HELP!!!

[PhätTony]

I need help from you Audi guyz, preferably B5 S4 guyz. Do I have a good buy on my hands?

02 Audi S4 w/70k miles
2 owners both leased
Located out of state.

$18900

I need questions to ask the dealership. I really would like to get this if possible. But I want to be sure its a good buy. PM me on this one.

http://www.carmax.com/MultiImages/WAURD68D32A001210/WAURD68D32A001210-1.jpg

http://www.carmax.com/MultiImages/WAURD68D32A001210/WAURD68D32A001210-4.jpg

http://www.carmax.com/MultiImages/WAURD68D32A001210/WAURD68D32A001210-7.jpg

http://www.carmax.com/MultiImages/WAURD68D32A001210/WAURD68D32A001210-5.jpg

http://www.carmax.com/MultiImages/WAURD68D32A001210/WAURD68D32A001210-6.jpg

[veedubber7]

whats the price?

[jballou]

Uhmm Stay away from the auto. I know plenty of automatic guys that wish and wish they bought the manual.... Even the ones that say they drive a lot in traffic.

[PhätTony]

Uhmm Stay away from the auto. I know plenty of automatic guys that wish and wish they bought the manual.... Even the ones that say they drive a lot in traffic.

why's that?

[mike]

Run away,

one its an auto
two its sitting in a snow covered lot
three its been leased
fourth it was leased again

[mike]

leased cars are trashed for the most part, and the autobox sucks to drive, and is problematic if you start modding

[PhätTony]

Run away,

one its an auto
two its sitting in a snow covered lot
three its been leased
fourth it was leased again

actually that picture is old. it was in utah for 6 months. now its in arizona. its been leased once and then auctioned off to a dealer then another dealer.

[RavinJetta]

I agree with Mike about the whole leased car thing. I would go for a clean private party with good maintenance records first. Also definitely get the manual.

[PhätTony]

yeah, checked out the paper trail again. my typo, one lease two auctions by dealers

[PhätTony]

I agree with Mike about the whole leased car thing. I would go for a clean private party with good maintenance records first. Also definitely get the manual.


theres no way i would get a deal like im getting now. i cant afford a car like what you speak of. that would probably be around 23-26k

[mike]

usually when a car keeps getting auctioned off, it means it needs some expensive work, thats what happens with trade in BMW's here, we check them out, if they need too much work they get wholesaled off, then the next person inline buys it, figures out the same and it goes back to auction, 70K is ripe for a set of turbos, that means the motor/trans has to come out, thats a $5K job easy

[Streamline]

That price is way too much for the mileage and its history.
If all the turbos were replaced and it wasn't leased than maybe.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/340246064.html

Get this car, it's a 6 speed, same mileage; however it has it's turbos replaced and timing belt so you wouldn't have to worry. Plus it's an '02 which means you don't have to worry about the f'cking f-hose.

Plus it has extended warranty until 100k or 2009.

*F'ck, I wish I found this car earlier. Anyone wanna buy mine for 23k? only 39k miles :)*

[Tom (aka Godzilla)]

I would avoid that one. You can find better.

[PhätTony]

That price is way too much for the mileage and its history.
If all the turbos were replaced and it wasn't leased than maybe.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/340246064.html

Get this car, it's a 6 speed, same mileage; however it has it's turbos replaced and timing belt so you wouldn't have to worry. Plus it's an '02 which means you don't have to worry about the f'cking f-hose.

Plus it has extended warranty until 100k or 2009.

*F'ck, I wish I found this car earlier. Anyone wanna buy mine for 23k? only 39k miles :)*

Thanks so much man! I just left this guy a message. Hope he calls me back. Wonder if he's on this site.:tup2:

[Streamline]

Thanks so much man! I just left this guy a message. Hope he calls me back. Wonder if he's on this site.:tup2:

No problem man!
I'm happy I found that car for you, it looks like such a damn good deal.
Plus it will always be good to have another SUPER RARE! Silver S4 =). (Silver is the fastest color:p).

[CALL AAA]

Uhmm Stay away from the auto. I know plenty of automatic guys that wish and wish they bought the manual.... Even the ones that say they drive a lot in traffic.
Easy for you to say. There's no traffic way up where you live. :p

With that many miles, you're getting into turbo failure range. Some peoples' turbos last for a LOT longer than 65K, but 70K seems to be the magic number with the 2.7T. Although I can't say how hard those miles were. (i.e, 70K of hard or babied miles)

Wait until the A5 comes out (is it out now?) and buy my S4. I should have new brakes on it by then, and it's silver with red pin-stripe, the fastest of the silver S4s.

[mario]

Buying an AUTOMATIC S4 is like buying non-alcoholic beer...

[Streamline]

Buying an AUTOMATIC S4 is like buying non-alcoholic beer...

x2.

[auditurbo84]

As some have said there are definitely better deals out there. It's all about finding the car that feels right for you. You will know when you find the right car.

The absolute most important thing is to make sure the timing belt has been done. There has been several cases of early failure on the 2.7T. I had a timing belt go on my A4 and it was about $2,000 to have the engine rebuilt, and that was a 1.8T. You can only imagine how much more it would be for the 2.7T.

Me personally, I couldnt do without my 6 speed. But if I had to have an automatic, it would either be a Tip or DSG. You can def. help the TIP out some with the GIAC Tip Chip. Not sure if Tony has the TIP chip but maybe he could give some input on it.

As far as the turbos are concerned, its just chance. My car is stage 2+ and my turbos have 101,000 miles on them. Yet some stock cars with half the miles have blown thier turbos.

I am still debating if I want to sell mine, but if so I would take about $7000 off what that guy is asking.

[PhätTony]

Looks like I'll be heading down to Redondo Beach (back home) come this Sunday to take a look at the car.

[stonecloser]

I would be cautious with a manual. I had a 2001 MT6 and the syncros were already having problems at 50k miles. I traded mine in a bought a new A4. They are about 7k to R&R. You can read several threads on this at audiworld.com. The autos are supposed to be much more bulletproof if you maintain them. Don't get me wrong the MT6 is very fun but it comes with a price.

In addition I would not by a car that has ever been out of the state of CA. I also bought a out of state car that ended up being salvaged as somehow the title was washed clean by moving it from state to state. I even ran a carfax which said the title was clean.

Look online I have seen nice '01's w/ <60k for in the $15-16k range. You may have to travel a bit but you should be able to find something in CA.

Hope this helps, feel free to ask me more questions. :)

[Streamline]

Looks like I'll be heading down to Redondo Beach (back home) come this Sunday to take a look at the car.
Sweet man! Good luck, hope everything with that car turns out well. Take some pictures of the engine bay and other places if you can :D!

[CALL AAA]

One more thing to think about. Whenever you find that white stuff on the ground, you have a much better chance of finding that reddish brown crap under your car. (even if the area supposedly doesn't use salt on the roads)

[PhätTony]

Ok we're going to see the car again today. I test drove it last week in Whittier and damn! thats nice. Fast, very responsive, clean, no dents, dings, scrapes. Guy has every single dealer visit, servicing, complaint on hand in a folder. He's selling because he doesnt drive it and its a second car now. He wants to buy a house. Thing is he wants 19k for it. Replaced Turbo and Timing belt at 60k. I have to get him down to 18k because my loan is only for 18,500. I still need georgeys for tax and license yo! Rezie and Harris are gonna roll down with me tonight to see it again. They're the muscle, gonna beat him down to 18k. The reason the bank is giving me 18500 is because they quoted the car at 17600. I want this car!!!!!!!!!

It would be really helpful for your s4 guys to let me know what to look for or what to ask this guy tonight to help me get him down to 18k. So send me questions for him and concerns to ask for.

[PhätTony]

help!!

[auditurbo84]

hmm... check the tie rod ends, cv boots, bpv's, check the throttle body boot for tears, if its a 6 speed make sure 1st, 2nd and R are all smooth...

i cant really think what else off the top of my head

[PhätTony]

Nice! thanx...streamline pm'd me with a bunch of questions to ask too thanx bro!

do you think its justafiable to ask for 19k? hes completetly stock. just replaced th k03's and t-belt at 60k. That doesnt necessarily jump the value up. your just supposed to do it.
i have to get him to take it in for smog.

[auditurbo84]

The timing belt was def. something he needed to take care of. As far as replacing the turbos, that was great on his part. Who knows they could have blown and thats why he replaced them tho. I would find out who did the install on the new turbos as a crappy install job could actually do more bad than good.

As far as the price is concerned, these cars arent selling for much now days so I would def. offer no more than $18,000.

[EvilEmpirE]

how'd it go bro? Like i said....try 17.5 and go to 18 if needed, you should be able to swing it to your side:tup:

[Rezie@Genesis]

the owner won't budge
i say, get yourself a rental, take your time looking for one, don't rush it. we'll help you out bro.



tony check this out

AWD 4dr Sedan (2.7L 6cyl Turbo 6M) http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/sitewide/tmv_pricing_horiz_blue_141x24.gif
Trade-In (http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/audi/s4/100003696/options.html?tmvaction=vdpresult#) $15,185
Private Party (http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/audi/s4/100003696/options.html?tmvaction=vdpresult#) $16,696
Dealer Retail (http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/audi/s4/100003696/options.html?tmvaction=vdpresult#) $18,035


Certified Used Vehicle (http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/audi/s4/100003696/options.html?tmvaction=vdpresult#) $18,969

[PhätTony]

the owner won't budge
i say, get yourself a rental, take your time looking for one, don't rush it. we'll help you out bro.



tony check this out

AWD 4dr Sedan (2.7L 6cyl Turbo 6M) http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/sitewide/tmv_pricing_horiz_blue_141x24.gif
Trade-In (http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/audi/s4/100003696/options.html?tmvaction=vdpresult#) $15,185
Private Party (http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/audi/s4/100003696/options.html?tmvaction=vdpresult#) $16,696
Dealer Retail (http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/audi/s4/100003696/options.html?tmvaction=vdpresult#) $18,035


Certified Used Vehicle (http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/audi/s4/100003696/options.html?tmvaction=vdpresult#) $18,969

Yeah certified used is what he's askin around. KBB says its about 18,200 for good and 19300 for excellent. while edmunds is at 17797 good and 19523 excellent

[PhätTony]

how'd it go bro? Like i said....try 17.5 and go to 18 if needed, you should be able to swing it to your side:tup:

He's asian...he wont budge. lol...thats what Harris said when he got out of the car.

"ah man! he's asian he aint movin!"

[PhätTony]

The cv boot needs to be changed real soon. the rear brakes need changing. the pwr steering needs to be bled, its popping. there's an oil leak somewhere behind the engine that needs to be sealed. and it needs new tires in about 3k.

he wont budge... i even offered him 17700 then 18100 was my final. he told me he was in no rush to sell. that just means he's trying to sheist another buyer. he's stealin everyones shade.

[Rezie@Genesis]

KBB is always higher....
oh well, move along...we'll find you a better deal

[PhätTony]

found it!

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141615

can you see how much he wants?

[Rezie@Genesis]

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=219518953&dealer_id=59792595&car_year=2001&search_type=used&num_records=&keywordsfyc=&make=AUDI&model=S4&transmission=&distance=100&address=91730&make2=&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2002&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=2000&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=39

man i like the interior on this one VVVV
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=221644638&dealer_id=60056547&car_year=2000&num_records=&search_type=used&keywordsfyc=&make=AUDI&model=S4&transmission=&distance=100&address=91730&make2=&advanced=&certified=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2002&color=&keywordsrep=&start_year=2000&isDWSI=false&drive=&engine=&style_flag=1&doors=&fuel=&cardist=71

the first thing you gotta do with this one if you decided to buy it is to trash the wheels!!! VVVV
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=214625519&dealer_id=59170127&car_year=2000&num_records=&search_type=used&make=AUDI&keywordsfyc=&distance=100&transmission=&model=S4&make2=&address=91730&certified=&advanced=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&first_record=26&body_code=0&end_year=2002&color=&keywordsrep=&start_year=2000&drive=&pager.offset=25&engine=&style_flag=1&doors=&fuel=&cardist=93


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=214625519&dealer_id=59170127&car_year=2000&num_records=&search_type=used&make=AUDI&keywordsfyc=&distance=100&transmission=&model=S4&make2=&address=91730&certified=&advanced=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&first_record=26&body_code=0&end_year=2002&color=&keywordsrep=&start_year=2000&drive=&pager.offset=25&engine=&style_flag=1&doors=&fuel=&cardist=93

[PhätTony]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141437

[Rezie@Genesis]

found it!

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141615

can you see how much he wants?

HE'S in PHILLY...

[Rezie@Genesis]

no A4 tony!!! :P
stick with the plan....

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=219518953&dealer_id=59792595&car_year=2001&search_type=used&num_records=&keywordsfyc=&make=AUDI&model=S4&transmission=&distance=100&address=91730&make2=&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2002&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=2000&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=39

man i like the interior on this one VVVV
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=221644638&dealer_id=60056547&car_year=2000&num_records=&search_type=used&keywordsfyc=&make=AUDI&model=S4&transmission=&distance=100&address=91730&make2=&advanced=&certified=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2002&color=&keywordsrep=&start_year=2000&isDWSI=false&drive=&engine=&style_flag=1&doors=&fuel=&cardist=71

the first thing you gotta do with this one if you decided to buy it is to trash the wheels!!! VVVV
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=214625519&dealer_id=59170127&car_year=2000&num_records=&search_type=used&make=AUDI&keywordsfyc=&distance=100&transmission=&model=S4&make2=&address=91730&certified=&advanced=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&first_record=26&body_code=0&end_year=2002&color=&keywordsrep=&start_year=2000&drive=&pager.offset=25&engine=&style_flag=1&doors=&fuel=&cardist=93


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=214625519&dealer_id=59170127&car_year=2000&num_records=&search_type=used&make=AUDI&keywordsfyc=&distance=100&transmission=&model=S4&make2=&address=91730&certified=&advanced=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&first_record=26&body_code=0&end_year=2002&color=&keywordsrep=&start_year=2000&drive=&pager.offset=25&engine=&style_flag=1&doors=&fuel=&cardist=93

[PhätTony]

yeah your right.

[PhätTony]

not diggin the black w/wood grain. he wants a nice price. he still has the same turbos.

[S4Life]

My friend is just about to sell his Stg3- Santorin Blue S4.

Mods List:
WMS Stg3- Fuleing/GIAC
Strait KO4s
ASP Exhaust
LaBree Down Pipes
Clutchmaster Stg4 Clutch & Light Weight Fly Wheel
AWE Intercoolers
AWE Vent Boost Gauge
18' Flik Lex wheels with newer Nitto 555's
Full Samco Hose Kit
APR Bipipe

****EDIT
Staisis Coilovers
RS4 Motor Mounts
DTS from AWE
Cross Drilled Rotors
Evoms Diverter vales
Evo Intake
Steel Braided Brake Lines



Everything within the last 8 months

I think it has a few more things, but I just can't remember.

The car had some clutch Problems with RS4 clutches but he hasn't had a problem since he went to the Clutchmaster Setup. I've done some full pulls from around 60 to 130mph and the car strait whoops my Stg2+

Hood needs a repaint, but Jeff Moss is selling a mint Santorin Blue hood for $350.

I think he only wants like $23k w/115k miles. I'll ask him if he still wants to sell it, if you're interested.

[EvilEmpirE]

My friend is just about to sell his Stg3- Santorin Blue S4.

Mods List:
WMS Stg3- Fuleing/GIAC
Strait KO4s
ASP Exhaust
LaBree Down Pipes
Clutchmaster Stg4 Clutch & Light Weight Fly Wheel
AWE Intercoolers
AWE Vent Boost Gauge
18' Flik Lex wheels with newer Nitto 555's
710n's
Full Samco Hose Kit
APR Bipipe

Everything within the last 8 months

I think it has a few more things, but I just can't remember.

The car had some clutch Problems with RS4 clutches but he hasn't had a problem since he went to the Clutchmaster Setup. I've down some full pulls from around 60 to 130mph and the car strit whoops my Stg2+

Hood needs a repaint, but Jess Moss is selling a mint Santorin Blue hood for $350.

I think he only wants like $23k w/115k miles. I'll ask him if he still wants to sell it, if you're interested.

i would get this Ant....at least consider it. Unless you want to build it up yourself:)

[PhätTony]

i would get this Ant....at least consider it. Unless you want to build it up yourself:)

Yeah its nice, but I do want to build-up myself.

Just talked to the guy of this one today.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...g=1&cardist=39 (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=219518953&dealer_id=59792595&car_year=2001&search_type=used&num_records=&keywordsfyc=&make=AUDI&model=S4&transmission=&distance=100&address=91730&make2=&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2002&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=2000&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=39)
He wants me to come and see him tomorrow (Friday 7th) in Culver City...ok who am i giving gas to? He already did the turbos.

[S4Life]

Yeah its nice, but I do want to build-up myself.

Just talked to the guy of this one today. He wants me to come and see him tomorrow (Friday 7th) in Culver City...ok who am i giving gas to? He already did the turbos.

Just remember what you're getting yourself into. His mods list is easily over $12k just in parts!

Ko4's = $2600
Fueling= $2500
Clutchmaster Setup is about= $2000
ASP= $1000
DP's= $1500
AWE IC's= $1500
Samco= $500
Wheels, Tires & extra's= $1500

Now, just imagine the Labor with all that, cause chances are that you won't get it all at once. So your labor cost will add up very quick. Even if you did have everything all at once, you're still looking at over $3k in Labor.

The Timing belt, water pump and all that shit was also done by Wicked Motor Sports.

Shit, I was thinking of buying it and swaping all the parts and then selling the car on Autotrader for like $17K- Yeah, I bet I could sell it to some kid who just sold his civic for that much with just my Chip and wheels, haha.

I'd be killing it then!!

[S4Life]

It's the Santorin Blue at the far left. Mine is right behind his = )

Oh...!! I forgot that he has Stasis Street Sport Coilovers- $1000

The Plate Reads "NAUDI S" I bet he'll throw that in if you're nice.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/aruisenor/Events/GermanInvasion07031.jpg

[PhätTony]

It would be nice, but the milage is just too high. Also the killer is that I've only been approved for 18,500.

[Anonymous]

I've been playing with the idea of an S4/Allroad too but this thread from the vortex made me a little hesitant. allroad/2.7t (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3158826&page=1)

Here are some of the quotes:

"If you can maintain this car like a 7 series, it will be great. Otherwise, I'd consider alternatives."

"2.7L Twin Turbo, which requires the motor and the ENTIRE front end to be pulled in the event of turbo failure, which there is a documented history of.

I'd pass. Actually, I'd run like hell..."

"Don't buy a 2.7T unless you can afford to upgrade to ASP Stage III with liquid cash, because it's gonna happen, and stock replacement is just setting yourself up for failure and dissapointment."

"All I am saying is that if you buy a 2.7T, you need to have a fund set aside to fix the deficiency in the turbos and spend atleast four figures at the drop of a hat. Either that or put some elbowgrease into it: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...age=3

What I didn't say earlier was that I would never, ever buy one of those 2.7T engines, are you ****ing kidding me? I know from experience!

Let's take a look back in history for a moment, shall we? When Porsche took Audi's 2.2l 5 cylinder 20 valve turbo engine making 227hp and built the 315hp RS2 engine, all they did was change the exhaust manifold, bolt on a bigger turbo, installed higher flow fuel injectors, installed a different exhaust cam, and changed the software to suit the bigger turbo. The Porsche engineers in all their wisdom judged the motor from Audi to be able to reliably handle +100hp over stock with no internal modifications.

Not the case with the RS4. When Cosworth took the standard S4 2.7T engine from 250hp to 380hp, they had to change: Cosworth cylinder heads, intake manifold, injectors, crankshaft, crank main bearings, rods, rod bearings, pistons, intercoolers, exhaust manifold *breathe...* AND they swapped in slightly larger K04 turbos. Doesn't seem like a high degree of confidence in the stoutness of the basic motor to me."

"quoted for truth.. i used to have one. guess why i don't have it anymore? lol"

"I love those cars, but the 2.7t horror stories have pretty much eliminated any chance of me ever owning one."


Take it with a grain of salt. You may be well aware of any problems with the 2.7T. I wasn't and this thread gave me second thoughts but more so made me want to do more research into it. :tup:

[EvilEmpirE]

I've been playing with the idea of an S4/Allroad too but this thread from the vortex made me a little hesitant. allroad/2.7t (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3158826&page=1)

Here are some of the quotes:

"If you can maintain this car like a 7 series, it will be great. Otherwise, I'd consider alternatives."

"2.7L Twin Turbo, which requires the motor and the ENTIRE front end to be pulled in the event of turbo failure, which there is a documented history of.

I'd pass. Actually, I'd run like hell..."

"Don't buy a 2.7T unless you can afford to upgrade to ASP Stage III with liquid cash, because it's gonna happen, and stock replacement is just setting yourself up for failure and dissapointment."

"All I am saying is that if you buy a 2.7T, you need to have a fund set aside to fix the deficiency in the turbos and spend atleast four figures at the drop of a hat. Either that or put some elbowgrease into it: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...age=3

What I didn't say earlier was that I would never, ever buy one of those 2.7T engines, are you ****ing kidding me? I know from experience!

Let's take a look back in history for a moment, shall we? When Porsche took Audi's 2.2l 5 cylinder 20 valve turbo engine making 227hp and built the 315hp RS2 engine, all they did was change the exhaust manifold, bolt on a bigger turbo, installed higher flow fuel injectors, installed a different exhaust cam, and changed the software to suit the bigger turbo. The Porsche engineers in all their wisdom judged the motor from Audi to be able to reliably handle +100hp over stock with no internal modifications.

Not the case with the RS4. When Cosworth took the standard S4 2.7T engine from 250hp to 380hp, they had to change: Cosworth cylinder heads, intake manifold, injectors, crankshaft, crank main bearings, rods, rod bearings, pistons, intercoolers, exhaust manifold *breathe...* AND they swapped in slightly larger K04 turbos. Doesn't seem like a high degree of confidence in the stoutness of the basic motor to me."

"quoted for truth.. i used to have one. guess why i don't have it anymore? lol"

"I love those cars, but the 2.7t horror stories have pretty much eliminated any chance of me ever owning one."


Take it with a grain of salt. You may be well aware of any problems with the 2.7T. I wasn't and this thread gave me second thoughts but more so made me want to do more research into it. :tup:

you hear all of those quotes.......but you don't hear all the people who have had Zero problems with their 2.7T. I would admit....the 2.7T needs care and maintenance, maybe slightly more than say a Toyota or Honda. But the rewards far outweigh the cons. You can be unlucky and get one that is a nightmare.....but that is up to you to do your homework (all maintenace records, check TB, CPP, etc). Mine has been super.....in the 4+ years of ownership. Would I get another one......you bet:D

[EvilEmpirE]

It's the Santorin Blue at the far left. Mine is right behind his = )

Oh...!! I forgot that he has Stasis Street Sport Coilovers- $1000

The Plate Reads "NAUDI S" I bet he'll throw that in if you're nice.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/aruisenor/Events/GermanInvasion07031.jpg


is that Jason's car???

[PhätTony]

i was waiting for that jackson.

[S4Life]

is that Jason's car???

No, it's Austins car. Not the Austin with the 13k mile Stg3 Nogaro(his is next to mine in the back row), the other Austin.

[PhätTony]

OK hopefully everything goes good with the white s4 from L.A. The guy likes that I'm an enthusiast and that I will take extra special care of it. I offered him what he wanted....18,800 with a 300 deposit for good measure. I just reapplied for the loan again but this time with the 2002 w/48k on it. I'll find out tomorrow if it gets approved. If not, I'll still get it but I'll have to pay tax and licensing out of my pocket to the DMV. Ugh!!! Oh well, I want this car.

If this one doesnt line up, or someone sweeps it from me (wish a muthafucka would). Then there is the 2001 w/58k on it in Santa Barbera I tested today. New tires and brakes and replaced right passenger CV boot.

wish me luck bitches!

[Streamline]

Luck.... bitch.
Cruising in Casanova White; damn that's gotta feel good.

[PhätTony]

Luck.... bitch.
Cruising in Casanova White; damn that's gotta feel good.

I'z be rollin to dis one
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[Eurowobgti]

goodluck on the buy TOny.. just dont forget me lol

[auditurbo84]

Luck.... bitch.
Cruising in Casanova White; damn that's gotta feel good.

Casablanca... soo tight. Thats the color I would get if i ws to get another S4.

[Streamline]

Casablanca... soo tight. Thats the color I would get if i ws to get another S4.
Sexier than nogaro :).

[Jewel]

Well, might as well throw my .02 in as well!

If you find a low mileage '02 (like the casablanca!) at a decent price buy it!

Ok, that being said ..............

I had a '00 with all the nightmares (and then some) and I spent alot of hard earned cash building the car my needs (track events, etc) Stage III etc. Now while I finished modding it alot sooner than I planned on, I LOVED THAT CAR! Someday soon I will buy another B5 S4. As long as you know what to expect, go for it. A Stage III S4 is just so much damn fun to drive!

Everyone else has given great advice on what to watch out for, so just look, and look closely at everything.

Good luck!