View Full Version : Anyone seen this? 13-year-old choked by police.
OCbuiltGTI
06-27-2007, 03:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/EH6AYVn2yw4
Bimmer Pilot
06-27-2007, 03:14 PM
Skateboarding is not a crime...
JETTAone420
06-27-2007, 03:14 PM
someones loosing a job over that one
OCbuiltGTI
06-27-2007, 03:21 PM
someones loosing a job over that one
Saw it in a myspace message this morning... If you feel compelled to write something then they posted info on the station for the police officer in question.
A dispicable act of police brutality was committed on Go Skateboarding Day by the Hot Springs, Arkansas Police Department. Video of the incident is below. After you watch it, we ask ALL of you to flood their phonelines and email address (below) with complaints regarding the main policeman involved, Officer Joey Williams. You should also contact your local news organizations to help spread the word. The more attention this officer gets, the better for us.<br /><br />Hot Springs Arkansas Police Department
Phone: (501) 321-6789
Fax: (501) 321-6708
Chief of Police, Bobby Southard
Email: bsouthard@cityhs.net
641 Malvern Avenue Hot Springs, Arkansas 71901
veedubber7
06-27-2007, 03:22 PM
Saw it in a myspace message this morning... If you feel compelled to write something then they posted info on the station for the police officer in question.
A dispicable act of police brutality was committed on Go Skateboarding Day by the Hot Springs, Arkansas Police Department. Video of the incident is below. After you watch it, we ask ALL of you to flood their phonelines and email address (below) with complaints regarding the main policeman involved, Officer Joey Williams. You should also contact your local news organizations to help spread the word. The more attention this officer gets, the better for us.<br /><br />Hot Springs Arkansas Police Department
Phone: (501) 321-6789
Fax: (501) 321-6708
Chief of Police, Bobby Southard
Email: bsouthard@cityhs.net
641 Malvern Avenue Hot Springs, Arkansas 71901
they are probably getting a ration of shit :ha:
I am not sure if what he did was legal or not though:confused:
OCbuiltGTI
06-27-2007, 03:27 PM
they are probably getting a ration of shit :ha:
I am not sure if what he did was legal or not though:confused:
Well he's within' his rights to detain/arrest them for disobeying an order from an officer of the law, but I think that choking the 13-year-old in the picture was unjust. I think that had the police officer had a more even-temper about the situation the whole fiasco could have been averted or left with just the original kid getting in trouble.
FunkTron
06-27-2007, 03:30 PM
interfering is interfering.........
but i would have arrested him for having such tight pants anyways.......
MrFast4Ward
06-27-2007, 03:33 PM
I would want to know what happened that led to the incident. Most of the time the original "offense" isn't that big of a deal (in this case seems to be skateboarding), but the actions that people take against police officers are what really get them in trouble.
Bimmer Pilot
06-27-2007, 03:36 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3321692
A police officer who appears to choke a skateboarder and put two others in a headlock in a video posted online has been put on administrative leave while police investigate, officials said.
Hot Springs Mayor Mike Bush said Tuesday that investigators have talked with witnesses who saw the officer, Joey Williams, stop the skateboarders on a downtown city sidewalk last Thursday. Skateboarding is banned in the area.
The video shows Williams apparently choking one of the skateboarders after forcing him to the ground, then later chasing and wrestling two others while holding them in a headlock.
"Unfortunately, the video shows it pretty good," Bush said.
Bush said he won't be sure of the city's next step until the investigation is complete. The video, taken by Matthew Jon McCormack and another unidentified skater, was posted Monday on YouTube, a popular Internet site.
Williams can be heard threatening one person with pepper spray if he moved, and several voices are heard asking why they were being arrested. One person can be seen running from Williams, and Williams later tells them they are fleeing and acting disorderly.
Williams did not answer a request through the department for an interview and did not respond to a phone message left at a home number in his name.
Police spokesman McCrary Means identified two of those arrested as McCormack, 21, and Skylar Nalls, 19, both of Hot Springs. McCormack faces a misdemeanor battery charge after allegedly pushing or striking a 67-year-old city employee during the altercation, Means said. Nalls was cited for skateboarding and faces misdemeanor charges of fleeing and obstructing governmental operations.
Four juveniles involved in the incident also face skateboarding citations and resisting arrest charges, Means said.
McCormack disputed many of the police allegations, especially his battery charge. He said he pulled on the city employee's arm after the man picked a girl off her feet in a choke-hold.
Hot Springs is a resort town about 50 miles west of Little Rock.
bugzy
06-27-2007, 03:37 PM
power trip
Bimmer Pilot
06-27-2007, 03:38 PM
Pepper Spray and Headlocks
Sounds like a new band...
They need to publicity crush the skateboards that will teach those teens!:p
oc-audica
06-27-2007, 03:41 PM
haha 13
TOYr32
06-27-2007, 03:49 PM
Skateboarding is not a crime...
Normally, but when you do it where you aren't supposed to it becomes one . . . attitude like that is what pisses off law enforcement.
Cops and Security are so limited as to what they can do that kids don't care anymore . . . just run from the cop.
I'm ssure if the cop was allowed to shoot you in the leg you wouldn't run, you wouldnt' skate where you aren't supposed to, and everyone would be having a good ole time.
It's one thing for the brutality to come from racial motivation or an umotivated altercation. But when someone taunts you and is asking to get your foot upside their head, than I say go for it.
When someone gets pulled over then after the cop gets out of their car and is talking to them drives off . . . I say shoot that car as many times as you can hit it, less people would run right?
Fear is the unltimate enforcer, if you don't have anything to fear, then you don't have naything to lose, so you have no reason to not do it.
TOYr32
06-27-2007, 03:53 PM
Skateboarding is not a crime...
But lets be more rational. If they had been casually skate boarding through the area as a pass through, then maybe nothing would have even happened. But they probably were jumping around, grinding all over the place and being kids (nothing to blame them for being kids, just do it where it's legal)
Now . . . why would that area have banned skateboarding . . . well, I know in California it is probably because some jackass was screwing around, hurt themselves, then their parents sues the city and won some money for having a dangerous recreational area.
Alright . . . I'm done.
OCbuiltGTI
06-27-2007, 03:53 PM
Normally, but when you do it where you aren't supposed to it becomes one . . . attitude like that is what pisses off law enforcement.
Cops and Security are so limited as to what they can do that kids don't care anymore . . . just run from the cop.
I'm ssure if the cop was allowed to shoot you in the leg you wouldn't run, you wouldnt' skate where you aren't supposed to, and everyone would be having a good ole time.
It's one thing for the brutality to come from racial motivation or an umotivated altercation. But when someone taunts you and is asking to get your foot upside their head, than I say go for it.
When someone gets pulled over then after the cop gets out of their car and is talking to them drives off . . . I say shoot that car as many times as you can hit it, less people would run right?
Fear is the unltimate enforcer, if you don't have anything to fear, then you don't have naything to lose, so you have no reason to not do it.
...yeah...
Let's let a bunch of dickheads with guns have free-reign to make the decisions on when to shoot and who to shoot at.
I think they tried that once somewhere, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
FunkTron
06-27-2007, 04:05 PM
what they need to do is start enforcing it across the board........or not at all.......it's the hap-hazard method of pick and choose that is frustrating to me........
I walk on campus at San Diego State University and see people wizzing past, through, and occassionally into people that are walking to/from class and whatnot....no one should impede the movement of another.....and very frequently....skateboarders do that. (not all....but still enough that it is noticebly a problem)
If it has been deemed unsafe, wreckless, or destructive........then it will most likely be made an offense.......
when it becomes law...it is enforceable......if you break the law.....you are an offender........
example.....if you have gum in Singapore (I think that's the country of reference)....you get caned.......
it's painfully obvious that these kids need to learn some responsibility for their actions.
bugzy
06-27-2007, 04:07 PM
that guy runs fast for his size
veedubber7
06-27-2007, 04:17 PM
example.....if you have gum in Singapore (I think that's the country of reference)....you get caned.......
not quite
Exactly what I expected. :tdown:
Reason number 2,104,860.:ha:
Yeah right.
Fired? The brother hood of cops won't let that happen.
Just some complaints. At most he'll get paid vacation.
y3lhsa
06-27-2007, 04:50 PM
that was so sad. what is the world coming too? people just want to skate!!!!!!!
RollinInGreenz
06-27-2007, 06:52 PM
Bad cop, no donut!
http://www3.sympatico.ca/ron666/mininodonut.jpg
If they wouldn't have run, or acted like jackasses to the cops, then they probably would have got off with just tickets
What pissed him off is all of the kids friends heckling him, then the kid in the white shirt runs off and he can't catch him, this just pisses off the officer more, so when he comes running back across the street, the other kids didn't stay put like he told them, they get a harsh lesson in reality.
IMO the world was better off when parents and cops could knock some sense and respect into kids. Nowadays they just run around like uncaged baboons with no respect for rules, anyone, or anything.
madajb
06-27-2007, 11:44 PM
Ah, I love it when punks kids get a dose of reality knocked into them.
Let me see if I get the timeline right.
Cop has kid A on the ground and cuffed.
Tells kid B to stay where he is.
Kid B takes off running, cop chases, apparently doesn't catch kid B.
Cop comes back, recollars kid A.
While cop is is lecturing kid A, Girl A comes along and gets involved.
Cop tells her to sit down and shut up, whereupon she says "No" and starts to run away.
Cop grabs girl, when kid C jumps onto the cop from behind.
Cop wrestles both of them, and then takes down kid C hard.
Girl and various other skate rats head for the hills as kid C gets introduced to cop and his Bop buddy.
Later kid D gets put down for reasons that are unclear.
That about right?
-ajb
Monster8V
06-28-2007, 12:14 AM
All 13 yr old skateboarders should be choked.
He did the public a service.
ncttrnl
06-28-2007, 12:20 AM
I know enough not to piss of a cop. My friends know enough not to piss off a cop for me.
As for skateboarding not being a crime... it very often is... especially on city sidewalks.
vwbora1point8t
06-28-2007, 12:54 AM
is anyone else enraged by this? is this a joke? you're honestly telling me you don't have anything better to do. I bet at that very moment there was a robbery on the other side of town. I'm glad this happened, cuz this dude is getting fired for sure. And don't feel bad for the kids, "cuz dey gonna git PAYD!!!" Do i hear law suit. omg, this is ridiculous. makes me very very happy im going to law school, cops like these are gonna give me my trophy wife, my 2.5 kids, my benz, and my million dollar house with my pretty white picket fence.
madajb
06-28-2007, 01:05 AM
cops like these are gonna give me my trophy wife, my 2.5 kids, my benz, and my million dollar house with my pretty white picket fence.
Unless those kids have video they aren't sharing, the best you'll get is the cop fired and a cheap payoff from the town.
-ajb
vwbora1point8t
06-28-2007, 01:13 AM
Unless those kids have video they aren't sharing, the best you'll get is the cop fired and a cheap payoff from the town.
-ajb
you'd be surprised, my friend...:D
vwbora1point8t
06-28-2007, 01:19 AM
yeah, i think this article says it best. that officer was really dumb to go about the situation that way. very very excessive if u ask me. anyway, police being sued is great, let's nip this oppressive "mafia" that is police. I honestly feel like they are getting out of hand, from this occurence, to corruption in LAs rampart division to the shooting of the airman from chino i believe. They are definitely getting out of hand.
http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Officers.htm
318daily
06-28-2007, 07:04 AM
Saw this on skateboarding.com
I skate and I'm bummed to see this happen, but the cop did have a point that they weren't doing as they were told. Yes it was a bit extreme, but i've had enough altercations with cops to learn that running is bad, and to just cooperate with law enforcement.
On a side note. I had a really great session on Go Skateboarding Day. Too bad these kids didn't.
Oh yeah, and I'm never ever EVAR going to Are-Kansas.
Skateboarding is not a crime, in places, some places it is. I doubt these kids are going to post the first 3 minuets of video where the cop is trying to get them all to listen and sit on the curb while he issues a ticket. They put themselves in that situation. Where one officer has to keep an eye on 5 teenagers then they go ape shit. I say the got what they deserved. But thanks to some people, the officer will lose his job, or get desk duty (LAPD is always hiriing) and due to ambulance chasing scum bag lawyers that would love a case like this to rocket them into the spot light, it will be cheaper for the city to settle than fight it and win. The kids will probably get $30K or so.
Rento_VW
07-03-2007, 04:29 AM
Yeah... I hate skateboarders... They are like... Nevermind.. that'll be a bit racist.
I think they need to get a job, all they do is destroy shit. I mean... Maybe if they just rode without grinding and destroying every single thing that sits in their path, not to mention just random yelling at people 100 feet away from them. Than maybe these skaters would be accepted a bit more...
Let's not even get into the deal with tight pants.. I don't care if it's easier to ride or not. Looks freaking retarded.
I feel they deserved it... Skaters should be limited to skate parks and private property, no where else.
EDIT: Did I just revive a dead thread? I swore this thread was within 5 from the top.
daygoVR6
07-10-2007, 09:22 AM
this is all over the longboarding forum i get on its gotten just alot of negative feedback all over the place hopefully that family doesnt just let this go by the way side
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