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Pireboi251
10-05-2007, 08:39 PM
As sone of you know, after i get my Autotech Cup kit:tup:, im planning on doing custom GHL TB with a HKS Hi-Power muffler (Yup gotta be different). So the question arose...

Should i...

get a GHL 3" Turbo-back and slice off the muffler ? ($1200 TB+ 280 HKS + install)

Or...

Buy the DP, and get the mesurements for the Cat and get a set custom bent ?($420 DP + ? pipes + 280 HKS)

..and before anyone asks..

No! It will not sound like a lawn mower...ive heard a clip of the same thing done on a 20AE and it sounded BEAUTIFUL:hitit:.

So what info or advice can you guys / gals give me.:tup2:
sandiegobmx
10-05-2007, 09:10 PM
Stay stock and get a drug habit.
mike
10-05-2007, 09:20 PM
I would buy a nice Downpipe, then have the exhaust fabricated with your HKS muffler and save some money
Pireboi251
10-05-2007, 10:45 PM
ok, thas what i thought thanks Mike....

So should i get the mesurements from GHL? or just have it custom fab'd... cause i thnk the GTI used GHL pipes
boostedMKIV
10-05-2007, 10:52 PM
A good DP and custom catback w/ your muffler choice is a good idea.

But $400+ for a DP is ridiculous.

My DP + installation only ran me $200, and i got a good deal on a cbe for $260.

Id do some more shopping for your downpipe. But other than that, everything else sounds good.
IfYouSeeKay
10-05-2007, 11:49 PM
I would buy a nice Downpipe, then have the exhaust fabricated with your HKS muffler and save some money
Totally Agree. Custom FTW!
jwill'sMK4
10-06-2007, 03:34 AM
Totally Agree. Custom FTW!

x 2 and ur pockets will thank u

jus think of the extra money you'll have buy going custom
Pireboi251
10-06-2007, 10:33 AM
A good DP and custom catback w/ your muffler choice is a good idea.

But $400+ for a DP is ridiculous.

My DP + installation only ran me $200, and i got a good deal on a cbe for $260.

Id do some more shopping for your downpipe. But other than that, everything else sounds good.


well thas just a worst of the worst estimate...

cause GHL directly sells it for $465

Setuning sells GHL 3"DP it for $400

and ebay is about the same for a GHL.


I know i can Get a generic DP off of Ebay for $150 but i dont wanna cheap out on this.

and ive heard alot of ppl sugust eurojet, 42DD, and Apr, but they all run within the $350 and $460 range

As for the Cat end of my system. Im planning to get some pipes bent at Jerald's on the mile of cars. and im gonna pick up the HKS from ethier Options auto, or ShowStoppers USA since my cousin has connections there

Anyway, thanks for the help guys... anythng more you can can suggust would be gravy:tup:.
Bierbau
10-06-2007, 05:04 PM
IMO you don't need a 3" exhaust on a stock turbo car. A 2.5" DP and exhaust would be cheaper. I have a GHL TB on my car and got it cheaper than GHLs website from MJM Autohaus.
20aeman
10-06-2007, 05:31 PM
wicked tuning 3in turboback or maxpsi 3 inch turboback, both are 500 dollars. Sell your muffler, especially if its a fart can and pay for the shipping with it.
EuroTunerGLI
10-06-2007, 06:25 PM
im running a 2.5in custom exhaust with a magnaflow muffler and custom TP

altogether probably cost me no more than $500 or so

pipe is pipe

so take that into consideration
joe18tbo112
10-06-2007, 06:29 PM
IMO you don't need a 3" exhaust on a stock turbo car. A 2.5" DP and exhaust would be cheaper. I have a GHL TB on my car and got it cheaper than GHLs website from MJM Autohaus.

I agree 2.5 is perfect for a stock turbo. GIAC even recommends a 2.5 for the ko4-020. 3" will likely cause more lag and potentially cause overboost throwing you into limp. just what I've learned from research not from experience. I run 2.5 all the way back and it's great.
mike
10-06-2007, 06:33 PM
try TT
Pireboi251
10-06-2007, 06:35 PM
well im just going by what the ppl on Vortex told me...they said just go striaght Three...

"your forced induction, theres plenty of wrties up on it, dont worry"

so i went with it....But most of the guys on Vortex dont live in Cali, so ill take your guys word for it...:tup:

I rember someone said..

2.5= stock/chipped ko3 or Ko4
3.0= Big turbo

I can still get the system in 2.5 ^_^, ill check out the prices you guys posted

Thanks for the advice guys....but im still FAR from doing this, i just wanna get my blue prints wrote up.:tup2:
mike
10-06-2007, 06:37 PM
Always have a plan, thats how you stay out of trouble
Pireboi251
10-06-2007, 06:43 PM
yup i leaned that a LONG toime ago ^_^...

esspecailly onm a V-dub, one wrong turn of the wrench equals...

http://www.johnminor.com/blogImages/chkeng.jpg
mike
10-06-2007, 06:58 PM
one wrong turn of the wrench, yeah right................. It comes from the factory in the "ON" position, its a fluke and something is wrong if its off, like the bulb is burnt out.
Bierbau
10-06-2007, 08:48 PM
one wrong turn of the wrench, yeah right................. It comes from the factory in the "ON" position, its a fluke and something is wrong if its off, like the bulb is burnt out.
I believe mine CEL burt out, since it has never came on.
Pireboi251
10-09-2007, 07:55 PM
yea...same here...im suprised it didnt go off when my speedometer stopped moving...

yea, it stopped, i was drving to mira mesa going like 75..then all a sudden i look down and my neddle is flat lined...

i was like 0_o? WTF
oc-audica
10-09-2007, 08:03 PM
damn 280 is a lot for a muffler!
Pireboi251
10-09-2007, 08:05 PM
yea...but it has a titainium tip ^_^... but its actually cheper then from the factory.

http://www.hksusa.com/images_products/L_2823.jpg

im sure i can get it for cheaper...a shop over here owes me a favor...you might knwo them

HIGH END PERFORMANCE. AKA "we own 6-figure cars and dont drvie them, except to shows"
Rento_VW
10-09-2007, 09:30 PM
Just a neutral question... Is it me.. or do those look like...
jwill'sMK4
10-10-2007, 01:09 AM
yes they do
sandiegobmx
10-11-2007, 01:16 PM
3" will likely cause more lag and potentially cause overboost throwing you into limp.

uhhh?
daygoVR6
10-11-2007, 01:28 PM
yea...but it has a titainium tip ^_^... but its actually cheper then from the factory.

http://www.hksusa.com/images_products/L_2823.jpg

im sure i can get it for cheaper...a shop over here owes me a favor...you might knwo them

HIGH END PERFORMANCE. AKA "we own 6-figure cars and dont drvie them, except to shows"


thats not a real titanium tiped muffler - its either cheap aluminum or coated stainless to make it look that way ....check out burns stainless, or thermal research for the dp, and then have a quality exhaust shop do the rest - I would ditch the HKS unit - if you really want that style of muffler look at the Magnaflow straight through seires single chamber round muffler - assuming you have the clearence and are making the HP to flow on a 3" DP back system (i.e. 400+ whp) - 2.5" from the DP back might be a better way to go since this sounds like a street application .....the 3" DP alone is going to give you some turbo lag to up around 2500-3000 RPM depending on the turbo and the housing
jwill'sMK4
10-11-2007, 02:07 PM
i got a generic brand 2.5" resonated downpipe i'll sale u for 50 bux but it needs a new flexpipe and it doesnt have a cat its jus collectin dust in my garage
Pireboi251
10-13-2007, 07:21 PM
no thanks...i really have my heart set on this HKS thing