Current and Former Military

[DAVE_W]

Since I'm new around here, I figured I'd toss up a thread as a feeler....


Just wondering what members are in or were in the military, Its always nice to know who you can BS with about the "Old Corps" or talk smack to about being a p*ssy and joining another branch.


I'm a former Marine, finished up my 4 years in 05 as a Sgt.
I was stationed with MWHS-3 on Mirimar for all four but deployed to Kuwait then Iraq.
I was a computer geek running the tactical networks with the G-6.
I'd still be in if my wife hadn't stolen my heart from the Marines.

dave

[wikedgolf]

oo there's lots of you guys here...

[Cannonball55]

<---I'm one...for 7 more months

[JETTAone420]

3years combat engineer here

[DTolo]

Look up the thread about peoples MOS... it wasn't all too long ago... there is a good list in there, OoRah!

[JETTAone420]

now now D....
we all know its pronounced Hooah!

[SoCal_GLI]

8 years in the Corps, only reason i got out was a motorcycle accident that made PFT impossible, or so the Marine Corps thought......even without the run i was a first class PFT (i only needed 200 for first classt and i always got my 20 and 100)

[CALL AAA]

Arooo-GAH!

[Hairball_2275]

13 Years in, still Active duty Navy. Currently a Chief Petty Officer, and stationed at instructor duty in Pt Loma.

[SoCal_GLI]

BTW i was also @ Miramar...i was in VMFA (AW) 225 and VMFA 134 and would go back in in a heartbeat if i could

[lostntainted]

wow all you water peoples... i'm air force 8 years in so far.. comm geek of course and currently in S Korea.. headed to Florida in two weeks baby!!! how is it you marines say? HOO-AH? hah j/k ;)

[veedubber7]

7 years in the navy :(

[SoCal_GLI]

wow all you water peoples... i'm air force 8 years in so far.. comm geek of course and currently in S Korea.. headed to Florida in two weeks baby!!! how is it you marines say? HOO-AH? hah j/k ;)


well San Diego is a NAVY town...and the Marine Corps is a department of the NAVY (the men's department)

[DTolo]

Well, since we are all doing it here... Almost 5 years in the Corps... Currently a MECEP Student, Woot! Means I get paid to go to college and NROTC. Not a bad gig, being as I will have the entire winter semester off, no drill, all pay, and don't have to take leave!

[SoCal_GLI]

Well, since we are all doing it here... Almost 5 years in the Corps... Currently a MECEP Student, Woot! Means I get paid to go to college and NROTC. Not a bad gig, being as I will have the entire winter semester off, no drill, all pay, and don't have to take leave!


congrats man

did i mention i almost made the Marine Extreme Team?....i was a shoe in, but decided not to last minute, cause we all know how the Marine Corps can suck the fun out of anything...LOL

Basically i almost got paid to Skate and Snowboard on my first enlistment

[DTolo]

congrats man

did i mention i almost made the Marine Extreme Team?....i was a shoe in, but decided not to last minute, cause we all know how the Marine Corps can suck the fun out of anything...LOL

Basically i almost got paid to Skate and Snowboard on my first enlistment

Man, that's been damn sweet. I am just hoping to get to the mountain at least a time or two this winter...

[PhätTony]

well San Diego is a NAVY town...and the Marine Corps is a department of the NAVY (the men's department)

8 years Navy Seabee, IT2 (SCW) JOINT CHIEFS, NATO SPEC OPS COMM, ARMY SIGNAL GROUP SHAPE NATO, JOINT COMM OPERATOR MACDILL,FL.

Did someone say mens department? I think not as you can see. lmao:tup2:

[vr6gtiguy]

january will be 9 years in the Corps, lovin every minute of it. stationed at miramar at MALS 16 as a t64 engine mech rebuildin the engines for the CH-53. headed back to iraq some time next year i think lol. an done to many depolyments to care to remember anything but the fun points lol.

[gest24]

3 Years in the Navy working on Helos. Started off in HSC now I work in LAMPS. I keep Call AAA up in the air.

[TOYr32]

<~~~~8 years in the Marines!!!!

[Hairball_2275]

well San Diego is a NAVY town...and the Marine Corps is a department of the NAVY (the men's department)

I thought it was the Special Ed Department? :D

[veedubber7]

I thought it was the Special Ed Department? :D

lol

[Bimmer Pilot]

Look up the thread about peoples MOS... it wasn't all too long ago... there is a good list in there, OoRah!

http://socaleuro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27701

My info, 8 years worth...
http://socaleuro.com/forum/showpost.php?p=285375&postcount=10

[PhätTony]

I thought it was the Special Ed Department? :D


check....and MATE!

[Bimmer Pilot]

I thought it was the Special Ed Department? :D
check....and MATE!

It's only Special Ed to those that couldn't hack the Reaper...

Do you guys still "Sit and Reach" for PRTs ?

:bump:

[memorylasts]

It's only Special Ed to those that couldn't hack the Reaper...

Do you guys still "Sit and Reach" for PRTs ?

:bump:


Of course! why wouldn't we?

<- navy here for 2.5 years, got 2.5 left!

[DAVE_W]

2.5 years huh, I bet you still have soap scum from boot camp on your shower shoes

[Tom (aka Godzilla)]

Did 10 years in the Reserves with A Co, 4th Tank Battalion. Got out as an E-6.

Switched over to the Air National Guard and got my commission. Now I am Capt and I don't deploy anywhere that doesn't have a nice hotel room. ;)

[Hairball_2275]

It's only Special Ed to those that couldn't hack the Reaper...

Do you guys still "Sit and Reach" for PRTs ?

:bump:

Gotta stay stretched properly to reach the beer without pulling something. :tup:

[SoCal_GLI]

Gotta stay stretched properly to reach the beer without pulling something. :tup:

or to bend over and grab your ankles when you go on your 6 month sea duty

[TheGTIprincess]

Never in the military but respect with no doubt.
Dated pretty much every branch though.
=]

[Para]

I spent 8+ years enlisted Navy before I applied for Army OCS. I spent 4+ years in the Army as an Armor Officer, and am now back in the Navy. I'm currently in Georgia going through Supply Corps school and will be back in SD by the end of summer.

[Para]

13 Years in, still Active duty Navy. Currently a Chief Petty Officer, and stationed at instructor duty in Pt Loma.
What department? I was an STG1 teaching Ops there from 2000-2003. One of my buddies is the STGCS in charge of it now.

[GtIrOb01]

wow all you water peoples... i'm air force 8 years in so far.. comm geek of course and currently in S Korea.. headed to Florida in two weeks baby!!! how is it you marines say? HOO-AH? hah j/k ;)

Where at in FL? Im right near Eglin and Hurlburt (AF Special Ops Command). Im not military, but know alot of guys who are.

[DTolo]

Never in the military but respect with no doubt.
Dated pretty much every branch though.
=]

Now that is what I call serving your country! :D

J/k... but couldn't help it :D

[huitzi]

just for curiousity ...... why did you guys join the army/navy/air force?

[TheGTIprincess]

Now that is what I call serving your country! :D

J/k... but couldn't help it :D


Haha.
I do my best.
=]

[Para]

just for curiousity ...... why did you guys join the army/navy/air force?
I originally joined the Navy because I wanted to be a Navy SEAL. I joined the Army because my wife was getting a commission in the Army (they paid for her Medical School) and it made it easier for us to be stationed together. I switched back to the Navy because my wife was done with me being in combat. It was rough on her since we were deployed together, and she saw and heard what happened on my patrols.

I would do it all again, no regrets. The military has been awesome for me.

[CALL AAA]

just for curiousity ...... why did you guys join the army/navy/air force?
I was avoiding the draft.

Actually, I knew I wanted to fly, but I didn't want to go to college, so becoming an officer wasn't an option. I went to my recruiter and told him I wanted to fly. He put me in delayed enlistment and when it came time to pick a job, they said, "What do you want to do?" I said I wanted to fly, and that helicopters sounded like fun. They said that they had a job that was like an airborne sonar operator. Sounds good to me. They asked If I could swim. I could, so they added rescue swimmer school on to the long list of schools.
14 years later, I have absolutely no regrets. I got the platform (aircraft) I wanted. I got the duty station I wanted. I had a few "non-standard" deployments. I got to be part of the flight that did Alan Shepard's burial-at-sea. And I met my wife.:tup:

Lostntainted mentioned that there are a lot of Navy people here. Right, and 1/2 of us are in 2 or 3 buildings on the same flight line.

[mitssn]

5 Years in the Marines! Got out in Sept of 2003

[JETTAone420]

just for curiousity ...... why did you guys join the army/navy/air force?

i had gotten accepted to Devry but i wanted to do something completely differnet and random. ive always been fascinated with the military and playin with guns as a kid so it was an easy transition to already knowing stuff. my original reasons were to join and be a army ranger but only infantry and front line combat MOSs could do the schooling so i ended up going 12c(bridge crewmember) i was dumb to not sign up for any extra schools when i originally enlisted but thank god their was a few slots open for air assault school my first week in the REAL army so i managed to get a spot. i was pretty proud to have my bloody wings before i hit my 5month mark.but during my first tour to S.Korea we got a massive troop movement orders, taking like 40% of 2nd Infantry Div. (the biggest unit in korea at the time) to ship out to iraq. during the transfer we got crossed trained to combat engineers which pretty much was learning 1 extra land mine and emphasizing more on urban combat and tactics. anyways i also scored a slot to go SAPPER school which is supposed to be waaay toughter than ranger school since at the time it wasnt recognized as a specialty school. but i didnt keep the slot since i was already comming up on my ETS and they werent gonna send me if i didnt sign back up. so instead i got out and ahve been enjoying life ever since. im glad i joined and at times miss it. i honestly think bootcamp is something everyone should at least go through in their lifetime just for the simple learining factor.

[Hairball_2275]

just for curiousity ...... why did you guys join the army/navy/air force?

I was working 3 jobs, averaging 100-120 hours a week, with no future at any of the jobs. My father was retired Navy (as were both of my grandfathers), and recommended I join the navy to get money for college, and some experience for a career. Just ended up sticking with it, and the time has flown by.

The comraderie is one of the best things about the Miltary, plus the travel is nice too. Now the reason I stick around the most is the medical benefits that come with retirement.

[A4wheelin]

5 years Marines. Was stationed at Miramar Hmm-161. CH-46 mechanic.

[DAVE_W]

Hah, I joined the Marines because it was the first door on the right at the rucruiting station. I graduated a tech school right after 9-11 and the economy was sucking, so i figured I'd join the "military". I had no idea what any branch did or what the differences were. The Marine recruiter was standing in the doorway to thire office and was the first person to talk to me.
I sure am glad it was him and not a Navy recruiter, I couldn't live with myself knowing I joined the pussified part of the military.:D

[Sal_B7]

CS2 here! Been in a lil over 6 years now. Was stationed on the USS Boxer LHD-4 for about 4 and a half years was deployed to the gulf 3 times. Im at the Naval Hospital now here in SD its cool but just sad seeing all these guys coming back from Iraq with missing arms,legs etc.
Big ups to guys over there right now and who have been there. One of my best friends just got deployed over there and i have a few buddies who are there now so hopefully they come back in one piece.

[Hairball_2275]

What department? I was an STG1 teaching Ops there from 2000-2003. One of my buddies is the STGCS in charge of it now.

I am the course sup for the Sonar Supervisor Course. The departments have changed numbers a couple of times, we are now N71 over in Bldg 11.

Are you one of Dan's buddies?

[Para]

I am the course sup for the Sonar Supervisor Course. The departments have changed numbers a couple of times, we are now N71 over in Bldg 11.

Are you one of Dan's buddies?
Yeah, we put on E6 together and taught together for about 3 years. Tell him that Kurt says hello. :tup: I stopped by there a few months back before Jeff left, we worked together too back a few years ago.

[Batrugger]

Started as an Engineer in the Army Guard, moved to California a year later and spent the next 5 years in the Guard as a tanker. The economy sucked at the time so I went active and back to being a combat engineer in Germany for 3 1/2 years, 3 years at Ft Lewis and then another three as an Army recruiter in Hesperia where I first joined. I got out went Active Guard (all the benefits of the military without all of the BS) and have been recruiting for the Army Guard for the last 5 years.

[90quattrocoupe]

Army
Cannon Cocker
68' to 70'
29th Infantry Brigade
3rd Brigade of the 4th Infantry Division
3rd Brigade of the 25th Infantry Division

Greg W.

[Hairball_2275]

Yeah, we put on E6 together and taught together for about 3 years. Tell him that Kurt says hello. :tup: I stopped by there a few months back before Jeff left, we worked together too back a few years ago.

Will do. Jeff is still hanging out in the San Diego area, I have not heard for sure, but I think he was trying to get hired on with Northrup Grumman. Gotta get out and play golf with him after the holidays.

[Para]

Will do. Jeff is still hanging out in the San Diego area, I have not heard for sure, but I think he was trying to get hired on with Northrup Grumman. Gotta get out and play golf with him after the holidays.
Thanks, maybe I'll swing by when I'm out there for the holiday season also.

[DTolo]

just for curiousity ...... why did you guys join the army/navy/air force?

Notice when he asked, he asked why everyone joined the army/navy/air force....

He didn't have to ask why anyone joined the Marines!:tup2: The choice is clear.

Guess he was just trying to see who'd admit that they:

Ain't Ready to be a Marine Yet

or wanted to learn to,

Never Again Volunteer Yourself!

:D

The Air Force hasn't been around long enough to pick on yet.


Oh, I just didn't see myself joining any other branch. They weren't ever a consideration.

[JETTAone420]

marines were honestly my first choice to join but since i was tired of the BS of livin at home i wanted to get out on my own asap and marine boot wasnt shipping out for another few months as with the army did the following month.

and damien....he didnt ask about marines cuz we all know ya'll get brain washed right from the start. haha jk i got respect of you guys especially for the units in 1st MEF that we were attached to alot of the time in iraq

[DTolo]

damien....he didnt ask about marines cuz we all know ya'll get brain washed right from the start. haha jk i got respect of you guys especially for the units in 1st MEF that we were attached to alot of the time in iraq

Can't argue your first point...:D

And yes, 1st MEF... the "I"mpereal MEF... I was part of that crew:D

[Batrugger]

It always amazes how the Marines talk so much trash about other services. You guys aren't the only ones with your asses on the line. Anybody that makes the decision to serve this Country, no matter what branch, deserves to be saluted. I have served this Country as a Soldier for more than 20 years in over 12 different countries. Are you trying to say that what you have done is so much better or harder than what I have done. I know when I was at Ft Leonardwood, going through the Combat Engineer course that it was Army instructors teaching your Marines how to be an Engineer. I can't tell you how many times I've been on a Marine base with my uniform on and I have at least one person everytime ask me about getting out of the Marines and going in the Army. Give it a rest.

[slowjet]

I was gonna join the Marines as a tank crewman (M1A2 Abraham) but i didn't want to be part of that big picture. I figured they were gonna make a killer out of me (and a damn good one), but my stoopid conscience got in the way. So i joined the Air Force instead and now im goin on my 8th year. Was active duty my first 4 years but decided to go Reserves. I worked on the F-117 Nighthawk in NM and now the new C-17 Globemaster in March ARB. Im in the process of getting a full time job as a civilian so i can get two retirement checks.:ha:

[huitzi]

Notice when he asked, he asked why everyone joined the army/navy/air force....

He didn't have to ask why anyone joined the Marines!:tup2: The choice is clear.

Guess he was just trying to see who'd admit that they:

Ain't Ready to be a Marine Yet

or wanted to learn to,

Never Again Volunteer Yourself!

:D

The Air Force hasn't been around long enough to pick on yet.


Oh, I just didn't see myself joining any other branch. They weren't ever a consideration.


lol........ but not really....... i thought the Marines were the same as the Navy:p

[///Criss]

10 years USN.

My friends joined the Marines, but I wasn't interested in sitting in a ditch getting shot at and eating MRE's.:tdown:

I decided to be a Fire Controlman and shoot missiles from very far away. Oh! I almost forgot all my electronic spaces were air conditioned. LOL :tup2:

[DTolo]

It always amazes how the Marines talk so much trash about other services. You guys aren't the only ones with your asses on the line. Anybody that makes the decision to serve this Country, no matter what branch, deserves to be saluted. I have served this Country as a Soldier for more than 20 years in over 12 different countries. Are you trying to say that what you have done is so much better or harder than what I have done. I know when I was at Ft Leonardwood, going through the Combat Engineer course that it was Army instructors teaching your Marines how to be an Engineer. I can't tell you how many times I've been on a Marine base with my uniform on and I have at least one person everytime ask me about getting out of the Marines and going in the Army. Give it a rest.

Whoa, at ease! j/k... it's all in friendly competition. Yes Marines ask about going Army, b/c is is rough being a Marine. Army, like the other services often has us beat at SPECIFIC MOSs, however, when it comes to putting bullets to bodies and bayonets to bellies, the MARINES do it better than any fighting force ever has.

A supply Marine will clear a house as fast as an infantry Marine. Soldiers can't say that.

Not to ruffle, but there hasn't ever been, and never will be a "Jessica Lynch" story in the Marines. Oh, and it was MARINE 1st Force Recon that went in and got her back.... just a side note.

Really though, all services have PLENTY to offer. No doubting any service.

[DAVE_W]

It always amazes how the Marines talk so much trash about other services. You guys aren't the only ones with your asses on the line. Anybody that makes the decision to serve this Country, no matter what branch, deserves to be saluted. I have served this Country as a Soldier for more than 20 years in over 12 different countries. Are you trying to say that what you have done is so much better or harder than what I have done. I know when I was at Ft Leonardwood, going through the Combat Engineer course that it was Army instructors teaching your Marines how to be an Engineer. I can't tell you how many times I've been on a Marine base with my uniform on and I have at least one person everytime ask me about getting out of the Marines and going in the Army. Give it a rest.
Hey Now, we are all just busting balls here. My hats of to you army guys and your 2 year deployments, I would never want to be doing that, 8 months 2 times was enough for me. I see a lot of reasons to join another branch for instance the army gets all the newest bad ass gear. The Navy get to see the world and hit cool ports here and there, and the Air Force.... well.... they have.... uhh...hot chicks in uniform!

All of our cross branch jabs are meant in fun. Feel free to fire back with a couple

[Bimmer Pilot]

It always amazes how the Marines talk so much trash about other services. You guys aren't the only ones with your asses on the line. Anybody that makes the decision to serve this Country, no matter what branch, deserves to be saluted. I have served this Country as a Soldier for more than 20 years in over 12 different countries. Are you trying to say that what you have done is so much better or harder than what I have done. I know when I was at Ft Leonardwood, going through the Combat Engineer course that it was Army instructors teaching your Marines how to be an Engineer. I can't tell you how many times I've been on a Marine base with my uniform on and I have at least one person everytime ask me about getting out of the Marines and going in the Army. Give it a rest.

Lighten up, Francis

[Para]

Whoa, at ease! j/k... it's all in friendly competition. Yes Marines ask about going Army, b/c is is rough being a Marine. Army, like the other services often has us beat at SPECIFIC MOSs, however, when it comes to putting bullets to bodies and bayonets to bellies, the MARINES do it better than any fighting force ever has.

A supply Marine will clear a house as fast as an infantry Marine. Soldiers can't say that.

Not to ruffle, but there hasn't ever been, and never will be a "Jessica Lynch" story in the Marines. Oh, and it was MARINE 1st Force Recon that went in and got her back.... just a side note.

Really though, all services have PLENTY to offer. No doubting any service.
LOL! Although I don't agree that Marines put bullets into bellies better, I agree with the rest.

[Hairball_2275]

Hey Now, we are all just busting balls here. My hats of to you army guys and your 2 year deployments, I would never want to be doing that, 8 months 2 times was enough for me. I see a lot of reasons to join another branch for instance the army gets all the newest bad ass gear. The Navy get to see the world and hit cool ports here and there, and the Air Force.... well.... they have.... uhh...hot chicks in uniform!

All of our cross branch jabs are meant in fun. Feel free to fire back with a couple

I second that about the hot chicks in Air Force Uniform. It is sad that the air force is worthless but someone has to deliver the mail overseas. We know they don't do much else. :D

The jabs are all in fun though, noone should feel butt hurt (unless they are marines that are feeling the soreness from the long nights huddled close in their ditches) which would of course be a literal type of butt hurt.

[scottd1975]

The jabs are all in fun though, noone should feel butt hurt (unless they are marines that are feeling the soreness from the long nights huddled close in their ditches) which would of course be a literal type of butt hurt.[/quote]

My
Ass
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment

nuff said!

[JETTAone420]

only reason id join the navy would be if i got accepted to the naval academy

only reason id join the AF is to be a fighter pilot

only reason id join the USMC is to be one bad ass muther fucker

ONLY reason i joined the army...they left sooner and have cooler schools

[scottd1975]

Guys the USMC is a great place to die...

[JETTAone420]

honestly i think it would be an honor to have died in the corp. (but it would have to have been doing something extremely crunk status....like holding a position against skinnys)

[scottd1975]

I honor any of my fellow service members that have fallen, i just wish i agreed with what we were doing in Iraq

[veedubber7]

Yeah Marines are pretty hardcore.
Glad i joined the Navy, more laid back.

[slowjet]

I second that about the hot chicks in Air Force Uniform. It is sad that the air force is worthless but someone has to deliver the mail overseas. We know they don't do much else. :D



Let me clear this up for you since you're having a hard time. Marines are shock troops, pure and simple. Army rolls in big, heavy and slow. Navy and Air Force are *for the most part* moving heavy shit around. PERIOD :p

[Para]

only reason id join the navy would be if i got accepted to the naval academy

only reason id join the AF is to be a fighter pilot

only reason id join the USMC is to be one bad ass muther fucker

ONLY reason i joined the army...they left sooner and have cooler schools
The Navy has better and more air craft than the AF. And the Army schools are open to all services.

I honor any of my fellow service members that have fallen, i just wish i agreed with what we were doing in Iraq
What we're doing in Iraq? You don't think that we should be rebuilding schools and hospitals? Or just don't think that we should be helping to train their military and police force? :p

[Hairball_2275]

Let me clear this up for you since you're having a hard time. Marines are shock troops, pure and simple. Army rolls in big, heavy and slow. Navy and Air Force are *for the most part* moving heavy shit around. PERIOD :p

:D I think the shock for the Marines is when they get out and realize that their training did nothing for their future. (j/k)

I would have to disagree with the Navy moving things around though, I am a small boy sailor (cruiser/destroyer) and we don't move shit. For those of us that do boarding teams, and security teams, we get a lot more fun schools. Many of which are with the Marines. Proof is in the pudding with the Navy having to Augment the Army with our personnel (approximately 30,000 IA people). They could do away with the Army and the Air Force and just keep the Navy and Marines.

I stick with my previous statement though. The only thing more pussified than the Air force is the French Military.

[DAVE_W]

:D I think the shock for the Marines is when they get out and realize that their training did nothing for their future. (j/k)

I would have to disagree with the Navy moving things around though, I am a small boy sailor (cruiser/destroyer) and we don't move shit. For those of us that do boarding teams, and security teams, we get a lot more fun schools. Many of which are with the Marines. Proof is in the pudding with the Navy having to Augment the Army with our personnel (approximately 30,000 IA people). They could do away with the Army and the Air Force and just keep the Navy and Marines.

I stick with my previous statement though. The only thing more pussified than the Air force is the French Military.
You,re not kidding about the not preparing for jobs. I see too many Marines get out and work as sa security guard at some frickin department store because the job they had in the Marines taught them impractical skills. I don't blame the Marines for that, I blame the recruiters and the stupid kid that joined thinking it would be cool to be a armorer (no offense to anyone out there)

Fortunately, I was a tactical Network specialist; meaning I spent a lot of time at different schools learning computers and technical stuff that landed me a good job when I got out.

[zRockstar]

Got out in 05 after 4 years in the Marines as a Cpl. I was public affairs at Miramar and before at Iwakuni.

[TOYr32]

You,re not kidding about the not preparing for jobs. I see too many Marines get out and work as sa security guard at some frickin department store because the job they had in the Marines taught them impractical skills. I don't blame the Marines for that, I blame the recruiters and the stupid kid that joined thinking it would be cool to be a armorer (no offense to anyone out there)

Fortunately, I was a tactical Network specialist; meaning I spent a lot of time at different schools learning computers and technical stuff that landed me a good job when I got out.

I agree . . . I did about 9 1/2 years in the corp (too lazy to check out) and I saw plenty of opportunity to broaden my education (but I was a reservist, so I didn't care). In the fleet they don't really advertise that you can have time off to go to school, and don't really push the open opportunities. On top of that, most kids (I say kids, because a lot of people join right out of highschool, and unfortunately are thinking about playing Halo when they get dismissed) are so busy pissed of at the Big Green Weenie to even care about trying to get a better education, they are short term minded and not thinking about what happens in 8 years.

Pretty sad if you think about it. Even with veterans preference, people getting out not only do not have job skills set for the civilian world, but they also lack communication skills as well. You can;t talk to your co workers like you talk to your buddies, and I think the mentality and communication is the hardest thing for people to overcome. In the military, you can't get fired . . . in the real world, you can, and you can get a lawsuit on top of that!!

[JETTAone420]

actualy we could do away with the marines if it really came down to it...army as far bigger numbers and way more technological advanced....marines are trained to kill pure boots on the ground and their expendable.

and what all schooling do the navy/marines have?? i know army has (airborne, air assault, rangers, special forces, sappers, pathfinder)

and i DEF agree with job preferencse getting out!!!!!! i joined up as a combat engineer and look at me now lol i work at fuckin office max which isnt that bad of a job but honestly how do u go from jumping from helicopters to selling pens to milfs?? and with the communication part oooh buddy haha i get warnings ever so often about saying the wrong thing lol..

[DTolo]

actualy we could do away with the marines if it really came down to it...army as far bigger numbers and way more technological advanced....marines are trained to kill pure boots on the ground and their expendable.


Wrong, read the history books. Everytime the Army couldn't get it done, the Marines had to fix it. When the ARmy got their perimeter pushed back by the North Koreans all the way back to Pusan, the Marines went in and damn near cleared out the whole country before being pulled back.

The Army Augmented the French during WWI for about a year battling the Germans... until the French were ready to surrender. But wait... they sent in the Marines, and for their actions, were awarded the highest award any country's service members have ever been awarded by another country. Not to mention they beat the will to fight right out of the Germans.

WWII, the Marines dominated every battle in the Pacific that wasn't fought vessel to vessel (Navy truly did shine during WWII, no sarcasm there).

Actually, the only Marine unit to have ever surrendered was NOT at the hands of the Marines, but at the Hands of the ARMY commander they were augmented to. Even though it was done at the hands of the Army, Marine traditions reign true, and that Regiment's colors are no longer able to fly over US soil. (They do fly in Okinawa though).

I won't even mention how many times, in the middle east, that the Marines controlled an AO, turned it over to the Army to occupy, and had to go back b/c our OCCUPYING FORCE couldn't handle it.

With that said, recent warfare has pulled all services from their true missions and reasons why they are/were needed individually. Marines were meant to be expeditious, and the world's best at amphibious warfare. The Army was supposed to be the big hammer, moving in a bit more composed and ready for a more drawn out conflict. The Navy was there to dominate the seas and in collaboration with the Air Force isolate the groud battle from all sea and air interference.

I don't know enough about the Air Force to say exactly what their worth is, other than the big jets.....oh wait, they have the bombers too right? It seems to me that the Navy kinda owns things in fighter jets. Which reminds me, when was the last time we were able to use our fighters in Air-Air combat?

[Hairball_2275]

You,re not kidding about the not preparing for jobs. I see too many Marines get out and work as sa security guard at some frickin department store because the job they had in the Marines taught them impractical skills. I don't blame the Marines for that, I blame the recruiters and the stupid kid that joined thinking it would be cool to be a armorer (no offense to anyone out there)

Fortunately, I was a tactical Network specialist; meaning I spent a lot of time at different schools learning computers and technical stuff that landed me a good job when I got out.

I have had a bunch of guys get out with hopes to go to school and get stuck in a rut and don't follow through. I try to stress to my division the importance of a degree, and with the military paying for it, there is no reason not to get one.

It sucks when you see someone serve their country and get stuck getting a crap job because noone will hire them.

[PhätTony]

or to bend over and grab your ankles when you go on your 6 month sea duty

No...we let the Marines that we pick up along the way do that for us.

[PhätTony]

Hah, I joined the Marines because it was the first door on the right at the rucruiting station. I graduated a tech school right after 9-11 and the economy was sucking, so i figured I'd join the "military". I had no idea what any branch did or what the differences were. The Marine recruiter was standing in the doorway to thire office and was the first person to talk to me.
I sure am glad it was him and not a Navy recruiter, I couldn't live with myself knowing I joined the pussified part of the military.:D

but you did!... i always seen marines hanging over the side of the ship for dear life as if the 'reaper' was coming to get them.:tup:

[Hairball_2275]

Wrong, read the history books. Everytime the Army couldn't get it done, the Marines had to fix it. When the ARmy got their perimeter pushed back by the North Koreans all the way back to Pusan, the Marines went in and damn near cleared out the whole country before being pulled back.

The Army Augmented the French during WWI for about a year battling the Germans... until the French were ready to surrender. But wait... they sent in the Marines, and for their actions, were awarded the highest award any country's service members have ever been awarded by another country. Not to mention they beat the will to fight right out of the Germans.

WWII, the Marines dominated every battle in the Pacific that wasn't fought vessel to vessel (Navy truly did shine during WWII, no sarcasm there).

Actually, the only Marine unit to have ever surrendered was NOT at the hands of the Marines, but at the Hands of the ARMY commander they were augmented to. Even though it was done at the hands of the Army, Marine traditions reign true, and that Regiment's colors are no longer able to fly over US soil. (They do fly in Okinawa though).

I won't even mention how many times, in the middle east, that the Marines controlled an AO, turned it over to the Army to occupy, and had to go back b/c our OCCUPYING FORCE couldn't handle it.

With that said, recent warfare has pulled all services from their true missions and reasons why they are/were needed individually. Marines were meant to be expeditious, and the world's best at amphibious warfare. The Army was supposed to be the big hammer, moving in a bit more composed and ready for a more drawn out conflict. The Navy was there to dominate the seas and in collaboration with the Air Force isolate the groud battle from all sea and air interference.

I don't know enough about the Air Force to say exactly what their worth is, other than the big jets.....oh wait, they have the bombers too right? It seems to me that the Navy kinda owns things in fighter jets. Which reminds me, when was the last time we were able to use our fighters in Air-Air combat?


Well put!!!:tup:

[Hairball_2275]

actualy we could do away with the marines if it really came down to it...army as far bigger numbers and way more technological advanced....marines are trained to kill pure boots on the ground and their expendable.

and what all schooling do the navy/marines have?? i know army has (airborne, air assault, rangers, special forces, sappers, pathfinder)

and i DEF agree with job preferencse getting out!!!!!! i joined up as a combat engineer and look at me now lol i work at fuckin office max which isnt that bad of a job but honestly how do u go from jumping from helicopters to selling pens to milfs?? and with the communication part oooh buddy haha i get warnings ever so often about saying the wrong thing lol..

The Army is not bad, but the big thing for them is not meeting recruiting goals. Their people are under prepared for the mission (personal safety gear) and over tasked with time in Iraq. No parent in their right mind will let their kid join the Army now.

The thing for the Marines is their Basic training is the equivalent of most Army schools (I say preparing for the flamespray).

The normal grunt is no match for a Marine.

[PhätTony]

But we all have one understanding... SEALS come first and fix what everyone else f'ks up. First ones to be called, last ones to be standing. You cant depend on anyone to get the job done and right like a SEAL. These guys are uncanny and unreal in everything they do.

good call!

[JETTAone420]

The thing for the Marines is their Basic training is the equivalent of most Army schools (I say preparing for the flamespray).

The normal grunt is no match for a Marine.

not entirely true... well almost cuz i know corp bootcamp is waaay more harder.
altho when i went to air assault school in korea we had marines fail out because they couldnt tie a rope or climb a rope in a timely manner.

[Para]

You,re not kidding about the not preparing for jobs. I see too many Marines get out and work as sa security guard at some frickin department store because the job they had in the Marines taught them impractical skills. I don't blame the Marines for that, I blame the recruiters and the stupid kid that joined thinking it would be cool to be a armorer (no offense to anyone out there)

Fortunately, I was a tactical Network specialist; meaning I spent a lot of time at different schools learning computers and technical stuff that landed me a good job when I got out.
Civilian employers look for experience, not skills. Very few skill sets will transfer directly over, but management experience and management skill always will. It is up to the individual to present themselves properly.

[Hairball_2275]

Civilian employers look for experience, not skills. Very few skill sets will transfer directly over, but management experience and management skill always will. It is up to the individual to present themselves properly.

Not true. Depending on the field, such as Electronics, like you know from being a Sonar Tech, you may have the hands on experience as well as the management experience.

Other fields do not match up to the civilian equivalents. Take WT for instance, which dealt with Nuclear weapons. The person retired as an E-8 without a degree. The companies were mainly interested in his halon systems experience, but could not hire him. He was over experienced for entry level, and lacked the degree required for management. That is one of the many people that have had problems.

The main thing that is important for people to think about is that the management experience that you mentioned is very superior to what can be gained in the civilian sector. All they need to do while in is to get that piece of paper. I heard it said best by my father in law, a retired SEAL, the Navy will forget you the day after you retire- you have to milk it for all it's worth while you are in. People need to get their degree paid for, and get any DOL Apprenticeships that they can.

[DTolo]

Not true. Depending on the field, such as Electronics, like you know from being a Sonar Tech, you may have the hands on experience as well as the management experience.

Other fields do not match up to the civilian equivalents. Take WT for instance, which dealt with Nuclear weapons. The person retired as an E-8 without a degree. The companies were mainly interested in his halon systems experience, but could not hire him. He was over experienced for entry level, and lacked the degree required for management. That is one of the many people that have had problems.

The main thing that is important for people to think about is that the management experience that you mentioned is very superior to what can be gained in the civilian sector. All they need to do while in is to get that piece of paper. I heard it said best by my father in law, a retired SEAL, the Navy will forget you the day after you retire- you have to milk it for all it's worth while you are in. People need to get their degree paid for, and get any DOL Apprenticeships that they can.

Marine Corps is paying for my degree right now! :tup2: Well, the GI Bill is, but the Marine Corps is paying me while I do it :)

To be honest, with as many people that get deployed to a FOB, for a year at a time, I think there should be a mandatory PME on Tuition Assistance and correspondence courses online. Almost all those damn trailers out there now have internet. I hate the idea of combat garrison, but too many people are out there until 45 days before they get their DD 214... Just an idea. Before I left my unit, I made sure all my Marines had attended the tuition assistance course on base, so they can get the free schooling.

[Batrugger]

Ahh yes the myth that the Marines are the only bad ass soldiers in the US military. US Special Operations Forces is composed of Delta (whom the Rangers support), Army Special Forces (Green Berets), Navy Seals, and the Air Force Pararescue (PJ's). Sorry no Marine component there. The difference between Marine and Army basic is that all Marines undergo Infantry training, however, since you mentioned Jessica Lynch, since that fake rescue, that has changed and all soldiers are taught basic infantry skills. The Marines are small, but they don't have to train and maintain a support element, they rely on the Army and Navy to take care of their basic needs and more specialized training. The Army has it's combat arms and they are as well trained and hardcore as any Marine. How do I know, I don't, but I have talked to a lot of former Marines, who are now in the Army who do know. I believe that you can't talk smack about another branch unless you have been in it.

The truth about combat arms (soldiers and Marines) is that they are very hireable if they market themselves right. Nobody in the civilian world is given more responsibility or leadership opportunities at such a young age. Employers are desperate for people who will show up for work on time, are drug free, are not afraid to take charge, and not call in sick all of the time. Former Military members generally fit this profile.

[Hairball_2275]

The truth about combat arms (soldiers and Marines) is that they are very hireable if they market themselves right. Nobody in the civilian world is given more responsibility or leadership opportunities at such a young age. Employers are desperate for people who will show up for work on time, are drug free, are not afraid to take charge, and not call in sick all of the time. Former Military members generally fit this profile.

I do agree that military members are good for fitting that profile. I have to alter me previous statement a bit to say that first term military members that get out are very marketable. Like Batrugger said, they are on time, drug free, and can easily take charge. They are also young enough to be trained and can continue on for a long career with a company.

Retiring at the 20 year mark, I would only use a company as a jumping point to get myself into the market I desire. I know that many of the people I work with are in the same boat, not desiring to sand crab shuffle into a position doing the same thing for a government contractor. I want to get into the private sector, and I might only use a company for experience, and the bad thing is that they know it. So I have to market myself in a way that I will be valuable to them in the short term, with the possibility of long term employment.

I told the wife if I do 30 years though, that I will work at Starbucks part time for the free coffee when I retire. That and play lots of golf.

[DTolo]

Ahh yes the myth that the Marines are the only bad ass soldiers in the US military. US Special Operations Forces is composed of Delta (whom the Rangers support), Army Special Forces (Green Berets), Navy Seals, and the Air Force Pararescue (PJ's). Sorry no Marine component there. [/qoute]

Marine Special Forces have been restructured and ARE now part of US Spec Ops.

Oh, and the Marines are not the ONLY bad asses. Our nation has a bad ass military on a global scale any way you slice it. However, of the bad asses, Marines are at the top of the tier. Like Ted said, "we could do away with the Marines"... the only reason America hasn't, is because the Marines ARE the best of the bad-asses.

[quote=Batrugger]I believe that you can't talk smack about another branch unless you have been in it.

When it comes to generalizations, I don't ever include Spec Ops from any of the services. From the guys I have met in the Spec Ops field, one SEAL, one PJ and the rest MarSoc Marines they all respect eachother highly and speak well amongst eachother. I'll take one bad-asses word on another. They are all bad-asses. I actually hope to get into MarSoc when I commission.

The truth about combat arms (soldiers and Marines) is that they are very hireable if they market themselves right. Nobody in the civilian world is given more responsibility or leadership opportunities at such a young age. Employers are desperate for people who will show up for work on time, are drug free, are not afraid to take charge, and not call in sick all of the time. Former Military members generally fit this profile.

I agree.:tup2:But I don't know first hand. I also recently read, SoCal is the #1 region in the country for people to be able to get into a job and advance w/o a degree. There is the highest demand for positions that "require" degrees, but exceptions are being made.

[PhätTony]

tell you what, ive been an IT in the navy specializing in Field comm and Network Architechture. When I got out, the only person who cared that I was in the military was a hiring manager that was a reserve AF officer. We take care of our own. All th rest of this stuff that goes on your eval, all the awards...they dont know what it means nore do they care. They want experience ok, they want someone that knows what they are doing. someone that doesnt really have management skills but is a fast learner and knows the art of his trade. in my case. systems support. they didnt care that i worked spec ops taccontrol. because they dont work on those systems. one thing is straight up...they hate a boaster. just go in that interview and only talk about how you can help their company in what they need. not what medals you got. thats the real truth. thats how i got a good job now.

btw...real spec ops are seals and deltas...rangers think the are and so do ForRec's...thats why when marines become seals...they put on the chevrons and ditch the globe and anchor.

[JETTAone420]

like tony said the only REAL spec ops are SEALS AND DELTA FORCE....
all rangers are are glorified infantry, now dont get me wrong im not talking down on them cuz like i said i joined cuz i wanted to be a ranger.

[JETTAone420]

but too many people are out there until 45 days before they get their DD 214...

hahah welcome to teds final 3months in the army...

anyways ive had a nice amount of job interviews for supperviser positions b4 i joined officemax but i know i got denied cuz of my age and comming straight out of the military without any other job experience. but now that im working at officemax i just found out when i went in for my interview it was for a supervisor job that i wasnt even told about and when they asked what position i applied for i just said sales cuz me being a dummy i just wanted to get a job lol....i know im waay over qualified which bugs the shit outta me and i know i would pull a better manager job then some of the others that have been working their for 6+ years. but like everyone said above most jobs are looking for that damn certificate for education which i dont have. ive applied for tons of IT jobs but since im not C++ certified (which i know my damn computers) i cant get any.

[Batrugger]

btw...real spec ops are seals and deltas...rangers think the are and so do ForRec's...thats why when marines become seals...they put on the chevrons and ditch the globe and anchor.

Yes that's true, that's why I said that Rangers support Delta.

[Batrugger]

I told the wife if I do 30 years though, that I will work at Starbucks part time for the free coffee when I retire. That and play lots of golf.

Hell yeah, no point in working after retiring. I had a friend that said he saw his retired SGM driving a riding mower on post. He asked him why he was just cutting grass because he thought that he would be working for a big corporation and the SGM said, "I'm retired, now all I have to worry about is cutting the grass" :tup:

[Hairball_2275]

Hell yeah, no point in working after retiring. I had a friend that said he saw his retired SGM driving a riding mower on post. He asked him why he was just cutting grass because he thought that he would be working for a big corporation and the SGM said, "I'm retired, now all I have to worry about is cutting the grass" :tup:

There is a cool job that a retired Master Chief I know has.. He works as a course marshall at a local military golf course. He rides around all day on the golf course, bullshitting with people and controlling the flow of play. On top of that he gets free golf any time he wants. It is a horrible job, he works 2-3 days a week. Not bad. :tup:

[Para]

like tony said the only REAL spec ops are SEALS AND DELTA FORCE....
all rangers are are glorified infantry, now dont get me wrong im not talking down on them cuz like i said i joined cuz i wanted to be a ranger.
Army Special Forces is not REAL spec ops? :rolleyes:

[Batrugger]

Army Special Forces is not REAL spec ops? :rolleyes:
Yeah, that was definately an omission.

[slowjet]

its all about who's got the biggist penis. nuff said

[Hairball_2275]

its all about who's got the biggist penis. nuff said

I have a full 2" but it is as big around as a tuna can. :tup2: