baja 1000

[A4effort]

I want to enter next time with a old beetle, anyone else ever thought of it, or willing to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baja_1000

[SoCal_GLI]

I want to enter next time with a old beetle, anyone else ever thought of it, or willing to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baja_1000


i have seriously thought of it, up until i read the rules....there is no way in hell i am gonna run a stock bug.......i would at the minimum want to run a roll cage, a bigger engins, and better suspension

[URQ]

I entered about 5 years ago with someone else and he pull out at the last minute so we did not go but we were going to be on motorcycles he was going to do the first 500 and I was going to do the second 500.

Things have changed in the past few years and I would tend to believe if the government does not straighten up all the corruption that happens around race time to the racers there will not be anymore racing in Mexico!

[mario]

i don't know that i am willing to do the baja 1000 (or 500) for the reasons stated above. . . but i would be willing to do an off-road type race if someone is serious about it. . .i have a few contacts in the industry, but things like this take time and money and talent. . . i only have (some) talent.

[mike]

I would love to do an off road race, but Mexico is a no go for me, its not safe for multiple reasons. Desert racing is fun and I have a spare bug that is earmarked for either this or 1/4 mile............ here is a brief over view

Here is a class 11

Class 11: Stock production VW bug with roll cage and upgraded shocks and tires.

Horsepower: 72-76
Wheel Travel: 5.5 Front, 5 Rear
Weight: 1950-2100 Pounds
Top Speed: 90
Cost New: Vehicle + $3,000-5,000
Cost Per Prep: $500-2,500
Basic Rules:

Suspension:
- Front axle tubes may be cut, rotated, re-welded to increase ground clearance or front torsion adjusters may be installed.
- Shock tower may be gusseted and supported but gussets may not extended more than 2'' above the torsion tube.
- Stock front spindles and trailing arms must be retained.
- Any rear suspension torsion bars, spring plates, and torsion bar adjusters may be used and installed.
- Rear torsion tube may be supported, only by that tube meeting a part o the roll-cage.
- Lower shock mounts on 1969 and older models may be shortened by no more than 1.5''. - Only one shock absorber per wheel is allowed. Cooling fins and resevoirs are allowed.

Engine and Drivetrain:
- Must be of VW Type 1, 1600cc components and dimensions.
- Cylinder heads must be single port.
- Stock carburetor must be used, with maximum venturi size of 24.10 mm.
- Must use stock fan shroud.
- Air cleaner may be of any manufacturer and any size; location is open.
- Transmission must be a stock Type 1, 4-speed bug.

If you were going to do a bug, you would probably want to do a class 5 Baja.

Class 5: Vehicle must be a VW Sedan Type 1 Hardtop or Convertible as delivered from the factory.

Horsepower: 175-250
Wheel Travel: 12-18 Front, 18-24 Rear
Weight: 2200-2400
Top Speed: 105
Cost New: $50,000-90,000
Cost Per Prep: $4,000-8,000
Basic Rules: Front and rear suspension is open, as long as it retains stock concept. Length, width, and manufacturer is open, as long as the wheelbase does not exceed 105 1/2'' at ride height.

Engine Rules: Any manufacturer air cooled, 4 cylinder, single cam, pushrod, VW concept engine is allowed. VW 4 cylinder water cooled engines may also be used. Displacement is open.

Or, class 5-1600 which is cheaper

5-1600: Baja bugs limited to 1600cc type 1 motor and type 1 suspension parts. Must retain working doors, stock floor pan and baja bug fenders.

Aka: 5150 (BITD)
Horsepower: 85-90 (dual port)
Wheel Travel: 9-10 Front, 15-18.5 Rear
Weight: 1750-1900
Top Speed: 80-85
Cost New: $20,000-50,000
Cost Per Prep: $2,000-4,000

Basic Rules:

Suspension Components:
Front:
- Suspension is based on VW Type 1 ball join or link pin style
- Any manufacturer's beam of 2 steel torsion tubes may be used but must retain stock VW width.
- Front trailing arms may be reinforced or replaced but must retain stock length and width.
- Track width will be measured from wheel mounting serface to the opposite; maximum is 55 1/2".
Rear:
- Suspension is based on VW Type 1 (IRS) or swing axle
- Trailing arms may be replaced or reinforced as long as length is retained at +/- 1".
- Torsion tube may be replaced or reinforced and torsion adjusters may be installed; any manufacturer may be used.
- Trackwidth may not exceed 58 1/4'' and is measured wheel mounting face to the opposite site.
- Entire outer cv must remain inside of the trailing arm inner bearing; no midboard or out-board hubs allowed.

[Monster8V]

I know a few regulars that wont be doing anymore races down there until the rig and equipment that was stolen BY the Highway Patrol last year are returned.

That and the people down there think its fun to set up traps that destroy trucks. Id wait to run the Samstown race in Nevada if you really want to do offroad racing where its safe.

[A4effort]

I know a few regulars that wont be doing anymore races down there until the rig and equipment that was stolen BY the Highway Patrol last year are returned.

That and the people down there think its fun to set up traps that destroy trucks. Id wait to run the Samstown race in Nevada if you really want to do offroad racing where its safe.


You see this is the first i have heard of the corruption. I would love to get into racing. Moster8v i checked out the racerswanted.com, I am definetly going to come check it out this year. I am installing new control arms and a few other things to make the car more track worthy.

I would love to get involved in racing of some fashion

[Monster8V]

You see this is the first i have heard of the corruption. I would love to get into racing. Moster8v i checked out the racerswanted.com, I am definetly going to come check it out this year. I am installing new control arms and a few other things to make the car more track worthy.

I would love to get involved in racing of some fashion



Thats just the off road racers!

Last year I ran in the TJ Grand Prix. Wasnt a bad experience except for the hotel trying to bill me for 3 days when I only stayed 2. I digress.....

I thought we were doing the full season down there this year but have been told that since theres basically a WAR down there in the streets of TJ, none of the North American racers are going down this season until things cool down. Ill stick with racing with NASA.

If you want to get into some track events, go for the NASA HPDE program! Its the best way to get into racing.

[A4effort]

I am going to check it out!

[Monster8V]

I am going to check it out!


Here ya go.

http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/index.html