to those who run/jog

[karl]

what brand shoe do you use? im running in some nike air max, but i dont think they are cutting it. im thinking of using the nike shox. ive tried adjusting my stride because i run heal to toe and have high arches, i get shin splints.

i feel better that ive started running again and i dont want to fall off. but i think if i had a better shoe, it would make running a little more enjoyable.

[JETTAone420]

new balance is good.
if your not used to running then your gonna get shin splints( when i went to boot camp and they had us ruck marching 2miles starting off i had the most massive shin splints) just make sure u stretch really good and do toe pulls.

i have a high arch too! welcome to the club!

[JETTAone420]

i went to walmart and bought some bootleg brand running shoes for like 30$ and i like them alot. their super light and fit my foot well. but the build quality feels like they wont last long....

[John5788]

i run every monday, wednesday, and friday in new balance. they are comfortable shoes and very light.

[oc-audica]

not that i have gone running in a while (realllllly need to get back on it too man) also been thinkin bout some new balance

but i ended up always using these... they're really comfy and breathe nicely... they were really gentle on my big ass feet

Reebok Ventilators ~ come in all kinds of colors but i got these
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[v2rocket]

go to a running store theres one in pq across from the 24 hour fitness theyll tell you exactley what you need

they have you run in shoes to see how your foot lands and stuff too

[mexmini]

nike air max for me. i run 3.5 a day and never had a problem of any sort with cramps, feet etc. shox didnt cut it for me..... and new balance is a excelent shoe also. :)

[RavinJetta]

I run in Nike Shox's. I am happy with them but I have been using nikes forever

[jincs]

I run in some Adidas running shoes. Gonna need new ones soon, I'll try out a pair of New Balances. How long does everyone run for?

[JETTAone420]

when the army made me...it was 4miles @ a 8min/mile pace mondays,wednesday,fridays. and once a month we'd do a company run across the post. hootin and hollerin some cadences!

[Kelly Girl]

Nike Shox

or the Adidas "squish" i don't know the formal name for it, but i has the pseudo-shox
they're wiked comfy

[DTolo]

Asics has got to be the best running shoe. Saucony has really come a long way too.

New Balance usually handles wider feet better than high arch feet. Nikes tend to be a little more narrow compared to the same widths of other shoes in the same size width.

For one, running "heel-toe" will aggrevate shin splints. Running at any pace slower than a sprint, should be, "toe-heel-toe". Meaning your toes, or ball of your foot lands first,heel comes down to touch for just a second before it picks back up and your foot lifts off from your toe/ball of your foot again.

There are many other factors that add to shin splints, I have become pretty well versed on the subject lately.

My recommendation to you, would be to check out Road Runner sports and have them fit you for a shoe. If you have a high arch, ask about their insoles (the green ones).

I run anywhere from 9-18mi a week, and I am 186lbs, usually run 3mi in about 21min (working on getting under 20min).

Hope that helps, I wasn't sure if you were looking for help with shin splints, or just a generally good shoe, or a combo. I have more info if you'd like, send a pm.

[oc-audica]

^^ nice post!

[JETTAone420]

damn damion your fat! werent u like an underwear model or somthin last year?

[socalrally]

Everyone runs "heel-toe" ... it's whether you supinate or pronate, and to what extent that makes a difference ... nearly every running shoe manufacturer makes a shoe designed for people who supinate / pronate / have a neutral gait ... the trick is finding a shoe that is designed for your natural gait ... go to a proper running store like RoadRunner Sports, and they'll have you run on a running machine for a couple of minutes to analyze your natural gait, and then once they know what your natural gait is, they'll be able to recommend a shoe designed for your natural gait.

This site has some more detailed info:

http://www.thestretchinghandbook.com/archives/pronation-supination.php

HTH.

[ohheycheckmeout]

I second the Asics as most likely the best running shoe out there, as Dtolo said. I ran x-country for 4 years along with track for 2 and tried a little bit of everything, but always ended up back in my Asics. They are light, support you and are comfortable. I am currently only running 3-5 miles a week, along with playing soccer 3-4 nights a week and Asics have always done it for me.

Regarding shin splints, as said above, a shoe will only help so much. More often than not, it is technique, pace or pre/post run routines that more often than not are the main cause. Hope that helps.

[DTolo]

damn damion your fat! werent u like an underwear model or somthin last year?

I was 195lbs in those pics!


Everyone runs "heel-toe" ... it's whether you supinate or pronate, and to what extent that makes a difference ...


This site has some more detailed info:

http://www.thestretchinghandbook.com/archives/pronation-supination.php

HTH.

I'll have to check that site out, but I have to disagree with you. Not everybody who runs, runs "heel-toe". And Pronation doesn't have as much to do with the most common cause of shin splints as it does with having the right arch support.

If you don't believe me about "toe-heel-toe", give Steve Scott a call. He ran 136 sub-4min miles that were recorded in his career. He's a US record holder, and only 1 of 5 in the world to run a sub-4:50 mile. He can better explain the mechanics of "toe-heel-toe".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Scott <-- it is Wiki, but pretty well on with is Bio.

The only thing I don't like about the "running diagnosis" you recieve at RoadRunners is that when you run barefoot, people tend to put more of their weight on the balls of their feet... meaning they run less heel-toe, and more of toe-heel-toe, since landing on the balls of your feet is the only natural shock absorber as opposed to landing on just the heel.

This causes the "diagnosis" to be not always correct, because the employee is not seeing how the customer truly runs.

[karl]

im gonna have to find a place in the IE that does a shoe diagnosis. my guess is that i run/walk about 2 miles. im trying to build that endurance where i can run the whole time. ive increased it little by little so far, but need improvement. ive tried running at a slow pace running toe/heel and feel like running that way will make my calf knot up.

i do stretch before my run. and the info has been very helpful.
thanks guys

[GTiGirl]

RoadRunner Sports is rad - I have very special needs feet and they were able to accommodate my custom orthotics and supernating stride no problem. Good service too. It's weird seeing your feet on TV.

I was running in Adidas Bounce and after I went to RoadRunner, I found I was running in a shoe that wasn't made for my feet. I ended up with some Mizunos and they are the shit!

And remember to replace your shoes every 500 miles or so.

[veedubber7]

do you have to pay to get your feet tested at road runner?

[mitssn]

Man I've tried all kinds of shoes and Asics are by far my favorite!!!

[DTolo]

do you have to pay to get your feet tested at road runner?

It's free. They just hope you buy a pair of shoes after.

Honestly, once you know what you need to run in, don't pay for the shoes there anymore after the first pair.

Go to a discount store and get the same shoe at a cheaper price. ;)

[JETTAone420]

karl come ovre next week mang! ill go run with u! your prob at my pace now anyways... cuz i tried runnin the other day and i was good for maybe a solid 1/2mile lol.............
the question is why do u stop running/jogging?
do your legs give out b4 your run out of breath or vice versca?

[karl]

its a little of both, but more so my legs start to hurt. so i walk it off

[jr_scheiBe]

SDRI down in the Mission Gorge area is another place that does video analysis. Road Runner is cool b/c they get the newest shoes earlier than others (got my nimbus 9's one month earlier than everyone else). PLUS as a member you can exchange your shoes after 60 days no questions asked. So if they dont fit or any other issue you get to try another shoe. The discount rack outside is cool to find low millage shoes just for kick-around purposes.

Have to disagree with "heel-toe" only. Yoshi "the barefoot runner" is another prime example of "ball-heel-toe" running with his style and research he did at SDSU in barefoot running. He used to work at SDRI but I read recently in Competitor Mag that he left. Really cool guy that loves to pass on his knowledge. If youre into aerobic/anaerobic threshold and VO2 max then his barefoot study is cool stuff.

On a side note I'm just trying to start my triathlon season up again after ITB issues and too much school. time to go dress like a baby seal and tempt the sharks:D

[JETTAone420]

cramping or "burning" sensation?

[CALL AAA]

I'm a habitual over-pronator, and I'm not afraid to admit it.

Anyone running the Rock And Roll Marathon?

[socalrally]

It seems I maybe wrong, so I retract my statement that "everyone runs 'heel-toe'" ...

Interesting article explaining that 'toe-heel-toe' is the natural way to run when running barefoot as it provides some level of shock absorption, and that 'heel-toe' is an artifact of running in shoes with built-in shock absorption:

http://patrickhdonnelly.blogspot.com/2008/01/heel-toe-running.html

[boragirl]

i switched to forefoot running about a year and a half ago and would never go back. trust me, it really helps with injuries and its just a more efficient way to run, if you're doing it correctly. since i started forefoot running AND foam rolling regularly i've been injury-free!

oh, and as far as shoes go... i only run in mizunos. they're relatively cheap (i think i only paid $75 for my last pair), very light, and will last you awhile (especially important when you're running A LOT, aka training for marathons/ironman!!).

[GTiGirl]

i will have to look into this "forefoot running"... i ran a short 5 miles yesterday after taking about 3 weeks off from any distance beyond 3 miles and it was tough!

i also started running with a camelback and it kind of sucks but with this hot ass weather, i'm a little nervous getting into the 8-12 mile range without hydration...

[DTolo]

It seems I maybe wrong, so I retract my statement that "everyone runs 'heel-toe'" ...

Interesting article explaining that 'toe-heel-toe' is the natural way to run when running barefoot as it provides some level of shock absorption, and that 'heel-toe' is an artifact of running in shoes with built-in shock absorption:

http://patrickhdonnelly.blogspot.com/2008/01/heel-toe-running.html


I just started running toe-heel-toe, it is not an easy transition, but I can already see imporvement. I just wish I started the transition a long time ago, before I learned my bad habits.

[CALL AAA]

i will have to look into this "forefoot running"... i ran a short 5 miles yesterday after taking about 3 weeks off from any distance beyond 3 miles and it was tough!

i also started running with a camelback and it kind of sucks but with this hot ass weather, i'm a little nervous getting into the 8-12 mile range without hydration...

In training for the Rock and Roll, I have done almost all of my running with a Camelbak. I have gotten really used to running with it. It's going to be weird to run the marathon without it. But a lot of my runs have been on the Strand, and there's no place to get a drink out there.

On the subject of barefoot running, I used to run barefoot for no apparent reason. Actually, I started when I ran my PRT (Navy physical readiness test) but I forgot to bring shoes. I had flip-flops or flight boots, so I chose neither. I ended up running the 1.5 mile in 8:36, which is, by far, my best time.
Right now, I'm at a 4:30 marathon pace. I was hoping to go 4:00, but I never did any sprints to improve my speed. It's my forst one. I guess I should just be happy to finish.

[jr_scheiBe]

Right now, I'm at a 4:30 marathon pace. I was hoping to go 4:00, but I never did any sprints to improve my speed. It's my forst one. I guess I should just be happy to finish.


Yeah finishing is a good thing but if you're like me Tony, you'll want more and will have wanted more out of the race after its over.

4:30.00 is still impressive for being your first dont forget that. I'm still working to get up to that point.




...stupid ITB.

[karl]

im impressed!!! im not sure if ill get to running a marathon, but i do want to be able to run the whole time. im still new and i need to learn a rhythm and keep it. i also like to run at night, it seems to me that you guys tend to run during daylight hours?

[VWReza]

RoadRunner Sports is rad - I have very special needs feet and they were able to accommodate my custom orthotics and supernating stride no problem. Good service too. It's weird seeing your feet on TV.

I was running in Adidas Bounce and after I went to RoadRunner, I found I was running in a shoe that wasn't made for my feet. I ended up with some Mizunos and they are the shit!

And remember to replace your shoes every 500 miles or so.

I recommend RoadRunner Sports as well. Great place.

[CALL AAA]

I hate running at night. I was doing 12 miles at night, and it was SO boring. And of course, there was no one out there. I would just zone out and forget what the hell I was doing. I run on the Strand, and there's a lot to look at. Not only the scenery, but also the "scenery."
As soon as I see someone, I have to catch them and pass them. Of course, there are a lot of SEALs out there, and those guys haul ass! A guy passed me and I tried to keep up with him. I was sprinting, and I couldn't close the gap.

[karl]

im the exact opposite....i hate seeing people. its kinda like its my city and im making sure things are right

[GTiGirl]

I mostly train at Miramar Lake. One revolution is 4.93 miles and they have markers every half mile or so, it's really helpful. However, it's getting freaking boring. I'm going to have to find another local spot to run to spice it up.

The camelback made me so sweaty! And it was like rubbing on my neck so I think I need to adjust it more. Hopefully I'll be able to start weighting it soon.

Anybody down to run a half marathon this winter?

I'm doing the Mud Run at Pendleton next month (10K) and want to step it up a bit. I'm planning on rewarding myself with a full marathon in Dubai, Geneva or Edinburgh in 2009 once I finish my MA... so I figure a half marathon in December would be good.

[creanium]

I mostly train at Miramar Lake. One revolution is 4.93 miles and they have markers every half mile or so, it's really helpful. However, it's getting freaking boring. I'm going to have to find another local spot to run to spice it up.

Do you only train on asphalt/concrete or are you open to running on hard dirt? I've been riding in the Los Peñasquitos Canyon Preserve a lot lately and it's been fun for me ... just a suggestion. :)

[GTiGirl]

I would prefer to vary my surfaces - absolutely hate concrete (sidewalks). Miramar Lake is asphalt so a bit easier. I'm hiking Cowles Mountain tonight in trailrunners so I'll see how it goes.

I'm going to look up the PQ trails. I don't want to get lost out there!

[creanium]

I would prefer to vary my surfaces - absolutely hate concrete (sidewalks). Miramar Lake is asphalt so a bit easier. I'm hiking Cowles Mountain tonight in trailrunners so I'll see how it goes.

I'm going to look up the PQ trails. I don't want to get lost out there!

lol - it's a bit hard to get lost out there.

[GTiGirl]

Oh, I guess when I think of canyons I think of getting stranded or something. Der.

[boragirl]

The camelback made me so sweaty! And it was like rubbing on my neck so I think I need to adjust it more. Hopefully I'll be able to start weighting it soon.


i'm not sure if you'd be open to this, but when i absolutely have to (aka 3 hr+ runs...) i will wear a fuel belt. it's pretty annoying but i think it's better than a camelback... but everyone has their own preferences. the best thing to do, if you have the time, is to stash a water bottle for yourself somewhere that you'll hopefully run by a couple times... otherwise just go pro and have your own support vehicle! :tup2:

[jr_scheiBe]

... otherwise just go pro and have your own support vehicle! :tup2:


so when are you going pro Mel?:D I'm going to try to get a 1/2 IM in by the end of this year and my goal is to do CdA IM in 09 and then graduate UCSD a month later. lofty goals, yes... but then arent all goals?

[karl]

in my short 1.5 week, im getting a little more stamina. im able to run longer and my legs dont hurt like they did. i think going toe/heel has helped. id like to be able to get to the point some of you are at. maybe even aim for a marathon. i think its and awesome physical accomplishment.

[Fritz]

i'm using brooks right now.. they make shoes for 200lb+ runners like me, and they rock.

i pronate so i went with the beast to control that.. since i've been using them, i no longer get cramps in my shins or calves.

http://www.brooksrunning.com/prod.php?p=41199&k=82127

i recommend you look in the yellow pages or online and find a running store, then go there and look for the guy/girl who looks like they run 1000 miles a week, and ask them to help you pick out shoes.

[TOYr32]

i'm using brooks right now.. they make shoes for 200lb+ runners like me, and they rock.

i pronate so i went with the beast to control that.. since i've been using them, i no longer get cramps in my shins or calves.

http://www.brooksrunning.com/prod.php?p=41199&k=82127

i recommend you look in the yellow pages or online and find a running store, then go there and look for the guy/girl who looks like they run 1000 miles a week, and ask them to help you pick out shoes.

Going to a running store is your best bet. You may want to try Roadrunner, off convoy, across from REI.

[CALL AAA]

If you go to Roadrunner, make sure you go around the side to the other building. They have all their returned/"defective"/old stuff. You can get some rediculous deals on stuff like shorts and Dri-Fit shirts.
But look on the racks for the black mesh '80s cut-off 1/2 workout jersey.