New York Fast Food Chains . . .

[TOYr32]

. . . Forced to Post Calories on Menu

http://news.aol.com/health/article/new-york-food-chains-post-calories/90014?icid=100214839x1206321401x1200319040

Thoughts??

[madajb]

It's not as if people didn't know that fast food is bad for you.
I guess some people need to put a number on it.

I'd actually be more interested to know where a steak in a decent restaurant clocks in, what with the "just add a little butter and salt" cooking style.

-ajb

[TOYr32]

I think it goes back to making restaurants accountable for your own health. We have an obesity issue because of education, not because the restaurant makes high calorie food.

It's almost a punishment because now that people see these numbers, it may deter them from getting that meal. When the real issue should be, if I do eat this, what can I do to make sure My ass won't jiggle for a week.

It's parents not taking responsibility for raising their kids, it's people blaming someone else for their health issues.

[Monster8V]

New York. Leading the way!
For something only NY knows. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[madajb]

It's parents not taking responsibility for raising their kids, it's people blaming someone else for their health issues.

Perhaps, but how does one make an informed decision without all the facts at hand? I'm not sure I'd have made the restaurants post it in plain sight, but I'm not sure that requiring them to have general caloric and health information available is a bad thing.

-ajb

[Mr. Nobody]

Denis Leary's rant in Demolition Man comes to mind. :D

[Anonymous]

I think it goes back to making restaurants accountable for your own health. We have an obesity issue because of education, not because the restaurant makes high calorie food.

It's almost a punishment because now that people see these numbers, it may deter them from getting that meal. When the real issue should be, if I do eat this, what can I do to make sure My ass won't jiggle for a week.

It's parents not taking responsibility for raising their kids, it's people blaming someone else for their health issues.

What is your opinion about nutrition facts on items bought at grocery stores?

[your_blog_sucks]

What is your opinion about nutrition facts on items bought at grocery stores?


It doesn't matter cuz most people don't even know what they are looking at anyways.

A majority of people eat fastfood because they are too tired to cook.

[TOYr32]

What is your opinion about nutrition facts on items bought at grocery stores?

That's fine, and Nutritional fact fro fast food are supposed to be available. What I don't want is some family in front of me taking 20 minutes trying to order studying their calorie intake.

I think most educated people know that fast food is not the best quality, but it tastes good. Eating something that is less unhealthy is still unhealthy. I have never seen anything healthy at a fast food place like mcdonalds. The closest I can see to getting a "healthy" meal is Subway.

Maybe they should catagorize it like Subway, have columns for 500-1000 calories, 1200-2000 calories. HAHAHA

[Anonymous]

That's fine, and Nutritional fact fro fast food are supposed to be available. What I don't want is some family in front of me taking 20 minutes trying to order studying their calorie intake.
:D Yes, there's that but I would expect them to post the info somewhere to the side of the counter. I'm sure they've thought it out. The last thing they want to do is slow things down.


I think most educated people know that fast food is not the best quality, but it tastes good.
I think you're over estimating most people. I'm finding that people aren't as smart as I've given them credit for.


Eating something that is less unhealthy is still unhealthy. I have never seen anything healthy at a fast food place like mcdonalds. The closest I can see to getting a "healthy" meal is Subway.

Maybe they should catagorize it like Subway, have columns for 500-1000 calories, 1200-2000 calories. HAHAHA

WHAT!? Didn't you know, McDonalds' got salads and shit now. :)
Seriously though, most chains are trying to offer some healthier alternatives.

[mike]

This is B.S. the stuff has been available for years on a chart. If you really cared that much, you wouldn't be eating at a garbage food establishment. This is just like the L.A. city counsel trying to ban fast food restaurants in the poor neighborhoods, its not the restaurants, or the governments job to regulate and make people responsible for what they eat. Only a complete idiot would be eating this garbage on a daily basis anyway. Education is the answer, personal responsibility, and good parenting...........

[TOYr32]

WHAT!? Didn't you know, McDonalds' got salads and shit now. :)
Seriously though, most chains are trying to offer some healthier alternatives.

Hahaha, Another fooled by marketing!!!

We'll use their burgers as the example and compare them to the more "Healthy" alternatives on the menu.

Big Mac = 540c
Double Quarter Pounder w/ cheese = 740c

Healthy Alternative would be a chicken sandwich

Premium Grilled Chicken Classic = 420c
Get the club and it jumps to 530c (bacon), almost as much as a Big Mac
BTW, the classic is the same calories, grilled or crispy chicken don't change it.

Get a Premium Crispy Ranch BLT = 580c
This is the tastiest of the chicken sandwiches!

I guess the healthiest alternative is the chicken wraps . . . but if you have an appetite, you'll end up eating at least , which would end you back at 520c, the lowest being 260c each.

So lets move on to Chicken Nuggets

6pc = 280c

3pc Premium Select = 400

Granted they are larger, but that's a huge calorie difference! And Peope will associate Premium Select as "Healthier"

BTW, adding sauce will give you another 50c-100c

Moving on the all deceiving salads!!

Well, the salds aren't bad, the best being 90c the worst being 430c

But add the dressing and you've got another 90c-190c

Nothing is good on the menu because a meal would contain a lot more that your daily value of anything.

But who cares, it tastes good, and if you walk around your block, you can burn most of that off.

But if you eat and sit on the couch and watch UFC . . . well . . .
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[mike]

I almost blew Mountain Dew out of my nose (speaking of health food) when I saw that GIF!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Hahaha, Another fooled by marketing!!!


How so? Could you get a salad at McDonalds 10 years ago? All of the examples of what you listed were "healthier" than their alternatives(except the BLT, nothing with bacon would be considered healthy). Are they really healthy for you, not really but you can't deny that it is a change. You want to dismiss the salad because of the dressing. If I ordered a Subway sandwich I have the option of extra mayo, extra cheese, etc. Anything can be made less healthy by the consumer.

I think the nutritional information at fast food restaurants is a good thing. People should be aware of what they are putting in their bodies. Even the dumb and lazy. The thing is the dumb and lazy won't read or care to read the information. Like you said if they cared they wouldn't be going there in the first place. It's not like the restaurants are being required to inform people of nutritional information as they're ordering. It's there in case you want or need to know. It's about being able to make an informed opinion and you should be able to make one.

[mike]

Seriously, some salads are worse then a burger, it all depends on whats on top, you add ranch, forget it. Point being, unless you've been living under a rock, or your 8 years old and you AND your parents have been living under a rock, its common knowledge that fast food is not good for you, period, no ifs, ands or buts. You want to eat healthy, great, read labels, stick to a diet and pack you lunch and make your breakfasts and dinners. Otherwise, ANYWHERE you eat, whether it is at a fastfood chain with crap food, or a nice restaurant with huge portions of food, its YOUR responsibility to regulate what you eat.

This is whats wrong with society, nobody takes responsibility for their own actions, like the of duty cop who's 3 yearold shot him and is suing Glock, the holster manufacturer, the store that sold him the gun, and the store that sold him the holster...............

[Anonymous]

Seriously, some salads are worse then a burger, it all depends on whats on top, you add ranch, forget it. Point being, unless you've been living under a rock, or your 8 years old and you AND your parents have been living under a rock, its common knowledge that fast food is not good for you, period, no ifs, ands or buts. You want to eat healthy, great, read labels, stick to a diet and pack you lunch and make your breakfasts and dinners. Otherwise, ANYWHERE you eat, whether it is at a fastfood chain with crap food, or a nice restaurant with huge portions of food, its YOUR responsibility to regulate what you eat.

This is whats wrong with society, nobody takes responsibility for their own actions, like the of duty cop who's 3 yearold shot him and is suing Glock, the holster manufacturer, the store that sold him the gun, and the store that sold him the holster...............

I don't know what you have against having the information readily available? Are you against labels on your groceries? Having the information doesn't remove the responsibility of the person eating the food. They will still be required to regulate what they eat. This isn't requiring fast food chains to limit people's intake.

[madajb]

This law isn't just "fast food", it's all restaurants with more than 15 locations. So, places like T.G.I.Fridays and Olive Garden [1] are affected.
-ajb
[1] The McDonalds of Italian food, but still...

[TOYr32]

I don't know what you have against having the information readily available? Are you against labels on your groceries? Having the information doesn't remove the responsibility of the person eating the food. They will still be required to regulate what they eat. This isn't requiring fast food chains to limit people's intake.

I think you misread the article. Most states require the nutritional values to be post so that people can read them. In NY, they are posting the calories next to the actual item, on the huge menu board. So now it's gonna be:

Big Mac . . . 540 Calories . . . $3.29

I feel like this is catering to those that really don't care. If they wanted to know they could look on the wall.

This is like putting the menu in another language . . . why?

[Anonymous]

I think you misread the article.

You are correct. I have gotten into the bad habit of reading the headline, scanning over the article, looking at any pictures and their captions, and digest. If the story is of particular interest I'll read closer.(I blame Digg) Too many times I have caught myself saying, "I read this article... we'll I read the headline and the description and then the comments." I shouldn't have gone half cocked and replied to this thread misinformed. I withdraw many of the statements I made in this thread. :) I can't agree with "putting it front-and-center above the cash register" and I can't disagree with yall's views on this. I will go wipe the egg off my face now. :tdown:

[TOYr32]

You are correct. I have gotten into the bad habit of reading the headline, scanning over the article, looking at any pictures and their captions, and digest. If the story is of particular interest I'll read closer.(I blame Digg) Too many times I have caught myself saying, "I read this article... we'll I read the headline and the description and then the comments." I shouldn't have gone half cocked and replied to this thread misinformed. I withdraw many of the statements I made in this thread. :) I can't agree with "putting it front-and-center above the cash register" and I can't disagree with yall's views on this. I will go wipe the egg off my face now. :tdown:

+Rep:tup:

[mike]

I don't know what you have against having the information readily available? Are you against labels on your groceries? Having the information doesn't remove the responsibility of the person eating the food. They will still be required to regulate what they eat. This isn't requiring fast food chains to limit people's intake.

Are you forgetting this information has been available for years now like I stated earlier? It has always been in the restaurant on a chart or paper to take with you.

[BexSoCal]

It doesn't pass the "So What" test.

Especially in NYC where Fast Food is something nobody but the fat tourists eat anyway.

[mike]

It doesn't pass the "So What" test.

Especially in NYC where Fast Food is something nobody but the fat tourists eat anyway.

LOL