The wussification continues.....

[Tom (aka Godzilla)]

Military commands drop Indian terms from exercise titles

U.S. Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs have struck the word "warrior" from one major exercise and replaced it with "phantom," according to a July internal message from command headquarters.

The bottom line: warrior, chief, brave and Indian are out; phantom, arrow and dart are in.


The complete article is here. (http://aimpoints.hq.af.mil/display.cfm?id=5692)

I agree with not using "redskin", but what's wrong with warrior?

[lostntainted]

being PC is so fricking ghey!!! :tdown:

[Agent Orange]

INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ill say it ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!!
Tertms like brave and warrior are just so classic. Why replace them with something that sounds so wimpy and weak??

[ncttrnl]

I'm offended. I think this is gives the complete wrong representation of phantoms around the world. :rolleyes:

[MikekiM]

Time to change our national anthem. Home of the WUSS.

[paultakeda]

I think they should name it Amalgam Fabric Honky.
And Fabric Chink.

What? I don't see those words listed.... and they aren't insensitive to Native Americans.

[ncttrnl]

I think they should name it Amalgam Fabric Honky.
And Fabric Chink.

What? I don't see those words listed.... and they aren't insensitive to Native Americans.

True... but they also have nothing to do with war.... unless maybe you have a chink in your armor.

I just don't get it because Its not like the ting was called a "savage" or a "beast" or something... it was called "warrior". Is it that offensive to call something a warrior?

People have thin skin and they hide it behind rhetoric.

[FunkTron]

they pulled the same shit at SDSU....claimed that the mascot was mis-representative and demeaning.....

I say...FUCK OFF!.....now you have NO representation...good or bad.....

go live on a reservation...collect your free money...and get hooked on drugs. Hell...I'll sell em to ya!

PC has gone too extreme...and it needs to stop.

[FunkTron]

BTW,.....SDSU still does not have a mascot...after like 2 years of trying to figure something out. whoop de dooo.

[Tom (aka Godzilla)]

I think they should name it Amalgam Fabric Honky.
And Fabric Chink.

What? I don't see those words listed.... and they aren't insensitive to Native Americans.
"Chink" and "honky" are similar to "redskin" in that they're definitley racially denegrating terms. Chief, warrior, and brave are not, on their face, racially denegrating.

As far as I know, no one has actually complained. They changed the names just in case someone might get offended. That's bullshit.

[lostntainted]

...and get hooked on drugs. Hell...I'll sell em to ya!



really???!! :D

[Troike]

INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ill say it ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!!

Well now, that's completely wrong ... the 'correct' term would be Native American (PC or not); they sure as hell aren't Indian.

And they don't do drugs, they're just alcoholics. I tried to respect their culture and race, but live in Flagstaff for a few months and that becomes impossible :tdown:

But I still don't disrespect them with incorrect nomenclature ;)

[fcastle]

Well now, that's completely wrong ... the 'correct' term would be Native American (PC or not); they sure as hell aren't Indian.

And they don't do drugs, they're just alcoholics. I tried to respect their culture and race, but live in Flagstaff for a few months and that becomes impossible :tdown:

But I still don't disrespect them with incorrect nomenclature ;)

A little off topic, but your post makes me curious. How do the actions of the people you come in contact with cause you to decide that you no longer have to respect an entire race and culture of people? Just curious as I've seen some pretty horrible shit from every race so how does this work?

[Agent Orange]

[QUOTE=Troike]Well now, that's completely wrong ... the 'correct' term would be Native American (PC or not); they sure as hell aren't Indian.

NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN
NATIVE AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy now???

[FunkTron]

And they don't do drugs, they're just alcoholics. ;)


I'll bet you an "INDIAN casinos" yearly profits that they are big time on drugs.

:tup: :liar:

[Agent Orange]

I'll bet you an "INDIAN casinos" yearly profits that they are big time on drugs.
Yeah, and fireworks like the indian in Joe Dirt:D

[Troike]

I'll bet you an "INDIAN casinos" yearly profits that they are big time on drugs.

:tup: :liar:

No "Indian Casinos" on Navajo land, no sir.
And alcohol is illegal there too, so it is the same as a drug really.
For some reason, a lot of them still do believe drugs are terrible ... but accept alcohol as normal (not that most americans aren't like this anyway). Boils down to custom + genetic predispositions I suppose.

A little off topic, but your post makes me curious. How do the actions of the people you come in contact with cause you to decide that you no longer have to respect an entire race and culture of people? Just curious as I've seen some pretty horrible shit from every race so how does this work?

Just the Navajos, really. The stereotype is that they respect their land, are the most noble of tribes due to banning alcohol and casinos and the like ... the truth is, the reservation is horrible in environmental quality from the terrible mining practices. Despite all the tons of aid and criminalization of alcohol, there's still a massive alcoholicsm problem and 48% unemployment. Most everyone we come into contact with at the local police department are Navajo.

That's not to say I dislike their culture more than any others, 99% of human are scum :p
But the idealized image the liberal professors try to force on us about how noble their culture and society is doesn't stand up to real life out there.

[madajb]

Well now, that's completely wrong ... the 'correct' term would be Native American (PC or not); they sure as hell aren't Indian.
But I still don't disrespect them with incorrect nomenclature ;)

"Indian" was good enough for Columbus, and it's good enough for me.
-ajb

[Troike]

"Indian" was good enough for Columbus, and it's good enough for me.
-ajb

It was 'good enough' because he didn't know where the f*ck he was :D

I just hate it because its so wrong. Indians are people from India. There's a billion of them, and they're far different than North Americans.

[madajb]

It was 'good enough' because he didn't know where the f*ck he was :D
.

Sure he did, India, that's why there were so many freakin' Indians all over the place!
=)

I've always liked the term ""First Peoples" in Canada, because it has a more anthropological basis.

But honestly, since the artificial distinction of Native American (and for that matter, the concept of Indian sovereignty) is complete bullshit anyway, I'll quite happily go on calling them Indians(or American Indians, in case someone gets confused between New Mexico and Hindustan).

-ajb

[protijy337]

PC has gone too extreme...and it needs to stop.


I concer :D I'm sit of trying to not hurt people's feelings HELL

I think the the Notre Dame "Fighting Irish" mascot is demeaning to my heritage!


http://www.alamoflag.com/alamoflag/Images/SportFlags/ncaa/printed_flags/notre_dame_59908_full.jpg

what are they trying to say Irish People Drink too much and pick fights.....? Hey us Micks we never get drunk and pick fights :D

[FunkTron]

I just hate it because its so wrong. Indians are people from India. There's a billion of them, and they're far different than North Americans.


nah...they are the same....a little darker than most....and broken English.

trust me...i work with about a half billion of them :p :D

[SoCal_GLI]

kinda reminds me how the marine corps would not call a black marine black....we had call them green or dark green....we are now backto referring to them as black.

but i will never call a black person African American, unless of course they actually went through Ellis island and got citizenship, but even then they are americans.


all this PC shit just creates more segregation. hell it's 2005 lets integrate already