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daygoVR6
08-23-2005, 11:33 PM
DYNO DAY
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words and pictures – Brad Harvey daygoVR6 socaleuro.com

No matter what aftermarket engine accessories you have for your engine, whether they are simple modifications, or major add-ons such as a turbo, supercharger or nitrous, tuning plays a major role in bringing them all together. The best results from proper engine tuning can be found when using a dynamometer or dyno for short. A dyno is used to read horsepower and torque curves across the engine’s rpm range at the drive wheels of a vehicle. All dynos have a set of large drums that the vehicle’s drive wheels roll on when making a dyno pass. When the car is brought up into the RPM band and through the gears the machine measures horsepower and torque readings electronically from the load that is put on the drums according to the rate of acceleration of the cars drive wheels. Most measurements are made when the car is in third or fourth gear to give the best results.


A group of Volkswagen enthusiasts from San Diego got together for a dyno day hosted by The Dyno Shop in Santee, California. The cars were all tested on a machine known as a Dyno Jet, which measures the horsepower from free spinning drums, instead of a load bearing system which uses magnets to put a load on the drums the higher up into the RPM band a vehicle’s drive wheels go. Seven modified VW’s took a shot at the dyno to see what kind of horsepower numbers they were putting down and to see if the modifications to their engines were actually creating horsepower. The friendly and knowledgeable staff of Mark, Alex, and Derrick was on hand to answer any technical questions, or to explain what certain readings meant on the display screen. The added bonus with the Dyno Jet system at the facility is the car’s air/fuel ratio is read as well during a run by the computer, to see if anyone might have a too lean or too rich condition that could be causing a loss of horsepower and torque.

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Out of the seven participants three of the cars were naturally aspirated meaning they were not using a turbo, supercharger, or nitrous to create more horsepower. In the naturally aspirated camp taking top honors was Brendon Prout with his Volkswagen R32. The R32 has an electronically controlled rear differential, which was disconnected, and readings were taken from the front wheels instead of all four. Brendon successfully laid down 235 horses with 220 ft. lbs. of torque.

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The power adder group was the cars using either a turbocharger, supercharger or nitrous to create added power. Jesse Padilla and his MK II GTI took top honors of the meet. Sporting a 16-valve 2.0 liter four cylinder using a turbocharger and nitrous oxide combination to reach his numbers. The turbo being used is a Garrett T3/T04E boosting air through an air to air intercooler which is kept cool with an NOS intercooler sprayer as well as an added 80 shot single fogger nitrous shot into his intake. Jesse laid down 414 horsepower with 372 foot-pounds of torque, which can turn tires into smoking mush after a few hard runs.

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Some other notable cars on hand were the MKIV Jetta owned by David Trecha, using a Stage III APR turbo upgrade on his 1.8 liter turbo four cylinder, put out 275 horses with 261 foot-pounds of torque. Another VW R32, owned by Jeremy Nagelberg, using a Stage One VF Engineering supercharger on 7 pounds of boost made 301.6 horses at the front wheels with 242 foot-pounds of torque. Soch Naungayan had a MK III Golf on hand using a 2.0-liter 16-valve four cylinder with a built head and individual throttle bodies naturally aspirated, spun the wheels to the tune of 186 horsepower with 152 foot-pounds of torque.

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This event gave European car enthusiasts and opportunity to utilitize a tuning technique that is sometimes over-looked when high-end motors are built. Everyone gained more knowledge on their car’s engine performance as well as some insight to what modifications have helped them gain more power across the RPM band. See the chart below for the full results of everyone that made a dyno pass. Thanks again to the staff at the Dyno Shop for making this happen and for answering everyone's questions.

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Participants - Vehicle - HP/Torque

Brendon Prout - VW R32 - 235 / 220
Namoy Ford - MKIV GTI 1.8 turbo - 139 / 166.7
Soch Naungayan - MKIII Golf 2.0 16 valve - 186 / 152
John Tagle - MKIV Golf 2.0 8 valve - 104 / 115
Jeremy Nagelberg - VW R32 supercharged - 301.6 / 242
David Trecha - MKIV Jetta 1.8 turbo - 275 / 261
Jesse Padilla - MKII Golf turbocharged / NOS - 414 / 372


The Dyno Shop
10042 Prospect Ave
Santee, CA 92071-4319
619.562.3933
www.thedynoshop.com

lostntainted
08-23-2005, 11:54 PM
i wanna dyno!!!! :(

very impressive though!! :tup: so can you post up some screen names, cause noobs like me don't know real names ;)

RTHRTY2
08-24-2005, 12:19 AM
im Jeremy with the supercharged R32.

NICE ARTICLE!

intricate976
08-24-2005, 12:50 AM
Nice article....looks like fun! I need to throw my car on the rollers now and see if all the dough ive dropped into my cars paid off.

BTW-
What engine code was the mk4 1.8t that put down 139/166? I put down 174/180 w/ only a dv.

bugzy
08-24-2005, 01:19 AM
hahah, i see jeremy in that pic ;)

Troike
08-24-2005, 01:39 AM
Wish I could have made it, but I had this, two parties, and moving to help with - and all I could do was sleep, since I worked OT fri nite and sat nite.

Thanks for providing the coverage ... article is a bit weak, and doesn't mention the Honda side? I know this is SCE, but it was the Honda crew that set this up initially, I would have liked to see what some of the HondaTech homies threw down.
Too bad they didn't have 4WD capabilities too!

ncttrnl
08-24-2005, 07:48 AM
Nice!

Looks like we've got some powerful cars lurking in the group. 414 HP in a MKII! :eek:

Its cool to see what all these mods actually do too. Too many people have stuff bolted in their car and have no idea whether it is actually living up to its HP claims or if it might even be hurting their performance. Then there are the guys that are just plain afraid that they might not measure up on the dyno so they won't go.

Cool stuff seeing people out there proving what their cars are capable of. :tup:

mk2dub
08-24-2005, 08:57 AM
Thanks for providing the coverage ... article is a bit weak, and doesn't mention the Honda side? I know this is SCE, but it was the Honda crew that set this up initially, I would have liked to see what some of the HondaTech homies threw down.


You are right, HondaTech guys are way kewl, but they need to show up to get written about. Plus BlueSi took over this dyno day after the HondaTech guys lost interest 2 weeks before this event.
Had a blast guys!! Nice seeing old faces and meeting new ones.

FunkTron
08-24-2005, 09:00 AM
Looks like we've got some powerful cars lurking in the group. 414 HP in a MKII! :eek:


yeah...that car is clean. but ive never seen it over the speed limit. :cool: (except the dyno....that is)

mk2dub
08-24-2005, 12:18 PM
yeah...that car is clean. but ive never seen it over the speed limit. :cool: (except the dyno....that is)


Ask the 1/2 dozen or so Cobras I surprised on the freeway if I ever exceed the speed limit:D

Monster8V
08-24-2005, 01:21 PM
Sorry I missed this. I had hoped to at least get my car there but I ran out of time. Im sure, even in its state that I could have owned the N/A 2.0L 8v numbers! ;)

FunkTron
08-24-2005, 01:23 PM
you live in Santee....we "own" different things...... :eek:

FunkTron
08-24-2005, 01:24 PM
Ask the 1/2 dozen or so Cobras I surprised on the freeway if I ever exceed the speed limit:D


reeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaly????

hmmm....and i still have not gotten a ride.

as far as i know...that thing is rev limited to 65 mph on the roads. :p :D

Monster8V
08-24-2005, 03:56 PM
you live in Santee....we "own" different things...... :eek:


Ahhh yes but I was in Sacramento at the time.

sandiegobmx
08-25-2005, 03:42 PM
Sucks I missed it. If anyone is looking to dial in their numbers, there's still three spots left on the 10th of September (http://www.dynoperformance.com/dynoday.php).

Were the APR Stage 3 numbers on a GT28R or RS?

Drumrpunk
08-25-2005, 06:06 PM
The Dyno Shop is a great place too...I use to work there and know the owner very well. I can tell you that they know there stuff!!

g60racer
08-25-2005, 07:38 PM
After I dynoed, I realized that I LEFT THE A/C ON!!! ARG!! So there are still a few more ponies in there.

Oh yeah, I've got the n/a R32

daygoVR6
08-25-2005, 11:15 PM
Were the APR Stage 3 numbers on a GT28R or RS?

did you not read the article....

"Some other notable cars on hand were the MKIV Jetta owned by David Trecha, using a Stage III APR turbo upgrade on his 1.8 liter turbo four cylinder, put out 275 horses with 261 foot-pounds of torque. "

sandiegobmx
08-25-2005, 11:22 PM
Mmmm, k. Please point me to the spot where you stated what turbo the guy was running.

If the Stage 3 is the blue GLI in the photo above, then I've met the guy and it's an RS. I just want to know for a comparison to my not-so-pleased 270whp I put down on my RS.

-camber
08-26-2005, 09:30 AM
....HondaTech guys lost interest 2 weeks before this event.



wow...i thought they would have jumped at the oppourtunity to put some VW's to shame :rolleyes: :D

soch
08-27-2005, 06:40 PM
Mmmm, k. Please point me to the spot where you stated what turbo the guy was running.

If the Stage 3 is the blue GLI in the photo above, then I've met the guy and it's an RS. I just want to know for a comparison to my not-so-pleased 270whp I put down on my RS.

I'll show up and see if theres a differance between running 100/91 mix octane vs. c-16. I figure i put down 186last week and i'm not gonna do anything different just see if c-16 makes more power than an unleaed mix......
ps.....nice meeting all you guys...
2days heat suxxx

mk2dub
08-28-2005, 02:27 PM
wow...i thought they would have jumped at the oppourtunity to put some VW's to shame :rolleyes: :D

did not happen last time we met, i think dubs took top honors on boosted and all motor class:smokem:

CMH
09-06-2005, 07:27 PM
Ask the 1/2 dozen or so Cobras I surprised on the freeway if I ever exceed the speed limit:D


Any chance you have hit the drags with that? If not, any chance we can get you to go drag racing to see what it does?


Wish they had a awd dyno so I could have went, would love to see if I am hitting the 450 whp mark at this time since the car is a bit faster now.